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My best friend is an elementary school teacher in an L.A. suburb. He sees this type of stuff all the time. The kids are getting indoctrinated in liberalism, and since the kids and parents aren't even aware of it, they don't fight it.
1 posted on 11/04/2005 8:03:43 AM PST by DeweyCA
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Hate America = Good

Love America = Bad


And we're paying good money for teachers to do this crap to our kids?

If you're in California I hope to hell you're voting yes on Prop 75 and Prop 74.


2 posted on 11/04/2005 8:08:12 AM PST by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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I am glad my kids are in private school (except the oldest whom is autistic and they are more concerned with keeping him in his seat than indoctrinating in the sp-ed classes.) I was an ed major for a year in college. I would look around the classrooms at my future peer group, and I couldn't bear the thought of working with them for the rest of my career. When I went in to the program, I wanted to change education and make a difference (HA!). I found that new thoughts were not welcome.


3 posted on 11/04/2005 8:09:59 AM PST by conservative cat
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Solution?
Home School!


4 posted on 11/04/2005 8:10:48 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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I tutor in LA. My sole purpose, I have come to believe, is to teach the kids about our wonderful US history -- the right way! We discuss propaganda, lenses through which textbooks are written. I have several history books available -- 'the Politically INcorrect US History' and etc. -- and I talk about our wonderful Founding Fathers, etc. It always comes up. "My teacher says that ... was a terrible President." "Some people hate America," I say -- "Let's look it up and see if we can find another way of looking at it."

I am stunned at what the kids say, but honored to be a Stealth Tutor. haha.


5 posted on 11/04/2005 8:11:03 AM PST by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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Leftism is worse than Islamofacism. And more dangerous to America.


6 posted on 11/04/2005 8:11:35 AM PST by samtheman
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Related thread on liberals and LA schools
7 posted on 11/04/2005 8:14:35 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; ohioWfan; Tribune7; Tolkien; GrandEagle; Right in Wisconsin; Dataman; ..
Did someone say...indoctrination in schools??

This thread may interest some of you.


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8 posted on 11/04/2005 8:14:50 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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Solution: sunlight as disinfectant.

Every public school classroom or auditorium where children are instructed should have an audio/video monitor that logs a transcript for parents and taxpayers to review every word that is uttered by these government employees.

We have as much right to see how our money is being used to educate our children as we do to see how accused criminals are being tried.

Public education should be on the public record.


9 posted on 11/04/2005 8:18:47 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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Most of the 8th grade American history classrooms held polls in which students got to vote on “who really discovered America?” I am not naive enough to believe that teacher influence played no role in the eventual results, which showed “Chief Howling Wind” easily defeating Columbus, 178 to 2.

Of course, if he thinks the correct answer is Columbus, he's an idiot. For one, he couldn't have been the first to "discover" America if there were natives living there already. By pure definition, the ancestors of the natives would be the ones who discovered the land. And Columbus wasn't even part of the first European discovery of America, as Erikson had done it years before.

Columbus did represent the first European discovery of America with historical significance on European and colonial history, however...

How you word the question is very important....
11 posted on 11/04/2005 8:19:43 AM PST by eraser2005
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We have our older grandkids in private school; we're working on getting the younger ones in as well.

For churches, especially, but for anyone who values a real education, building and developing more private alternatives to the public schools has to be priority one.

The public schools aren't going to change until they feel threatened, and they aren't going to change unless they are forced to compete. If you wait for that day your kids will be raised already and it will be too late to undo the damage.

We assume that because a kid seems articulate that he knows the things he ought to know; a conversation with a public-school kid talking in depth about any subject that matters may shock you.


13 posted on 11/04/2005 8:23:55 AM PST by marron
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If any parent doesn't know by now, he doesn't want to know.

The teachers pretend to teach. The children pretend to learn. And the parents pretend that the teachers are teaching and the children are learning. The system works.

We're homeschooling.

17 posted on 11/04/2005 8:31:36 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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The NEA (National Educators Association) biggest bunch of commie tyrants in the country. Just ask Ron Paige.

Public Education System has "systemic" problems. The only way to fix it...is to scrap it, and start over.


20 posted on 11/04/2005 8:36:14 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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"School assemblies were arguably the most blatant forums for political indoctrination. By my rough estimate, 80 percent of these were focused on promoting an environmentalist agenda."

I recall an assembly where the entire school was shown a film on the environment, in 1960-something. It showed cartoons of thick air pollution created by factories that lingered while exhaust emissions from cars simply vanished. GM produced this educational film.

21 posted on 11/04/2005 8:42:23 AM PST by moehoward
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How can people be surprised that a public school will become a cess-pool of politically correct groupthink and Liberal clap-trap. It's absolutely inevitable.

If you don't like it, don't send your kids to public schools.


22 posted on 11/04/2005 8:43:22 AM PST by gridlock (Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... Monty Burns)
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As a parent, my 'wake up call' about liberal teachers endoctrinating children, came over 10 years ago when my then 2nd grade son came home and proudly told me he knew the difference between the democrat and republican parties. He said: "Republicans help the big businesses, and democrats help the little people."


23 posted on 11/04/2005 8:49:13 AM PST by PilloryHillary (Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.)
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Let's not forget the arms of NAMBLA infiltrating the schools, known as GLSEN and P-FLAG.


24 posted on 11/04/2005 8:52:20 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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Any chance that David Horowitz would finance a documentary illustrating some of this? I think it'd be enlightening to some of those who are not as familiar w/ our public "schools."


26 posted on 11/04/2005 9:05:33 AM PST by detsaoT (run bsd)
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“How does the seal look?” she would intone. “Sad!” they would echo.

And they wonder why kids can't read? Clearly, the priorities of teachers are in the wrong place.

30 posted on 11/04/2005 9:31:15 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("(I've had) too many wives and taken too many drugs." -Ambassador Joe Wilson)
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Exactly.

When I pulled out my buck folding hunter to help my 6 year old granddaughter carve a pumpkin, she gasped and said officer (some woman's name) told us to tell our parents that they shouldn't have that kind of knife around the house. Then she went on to tell me that guns are bad and people shouldn't have them because they are dangerous.

When she gets older I will have to have a serious talk with her.


36 posted on 11/04/2005 12:37:18 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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I'm a special ed aide in a local public school in the San Fernando Valley. I see this all the time. There are three conservative teachers at the school I work at.

One time in a kindergarten class a substitute teacher was reading the kids a book about the civil war (a totally inappropriate book with pictures of dead soldiers with blood) and mentioned that the armies wore different colors but didn't know which ones wore blue and which ones wore the other color.

Than during "Black History" month the school had this theater group from Topanga Canyon come and give an assembly to the whole school. It was soo slanted I was so upset that I had to sit through it. They were condemning White people while never mentioning that there is and was slavery all over the world. It really broke my heart that the children were subject to such hatred and fiercely biased information.

46 posted on 11/04/2005 6:25:26 PM PST by bellas_sister (www.bracketfish.org)
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