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To: Right Wing Professor

Pardon me, but are you seriously suggesting that random selection, and inherited variation, are not 2 chance events?

Okay...


44 posted on 11/04/2005 7:40:08 AM PST by mikeus_maximus (Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is still evil.)
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To: mikeus_maximus
"Pardon me, but are you seriously suggesting that random selection, and inherited variation, are not 2 chance events?"

There is no such thing as *random selection*. Natural selection is the exact opposite of random. *Random selection* is a creationist talking point but it has no relation to evolution or what evolutionary biologists have proposed.
46 posted on 11/04/2005 7:49:51 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: mikeus_maximus
Pardon me, but are you seriously suggesting that random selection, and inherited variation, are not 2 chance events?

Neither selection nor inheritance is random.

50 posted on 11/04/2005 8:02:06 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (If you love peace, prepare for war. If you hate violence, own a gun.)
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To: mikeus_maximus
"Pardon me, but are you seriously suggesting that random selection, and inherited variation, are not 2 chance events? "

How do you define a selection that is random and
how do you define a variation that is inherited?


Another red herring again?
Putting together two separated evolutionary processes in one is a straw-man.
51 posted on 11/04/2005 8:03:37 AM PST by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: mikeus_maximus

Random selection? Random selection? What the heck is random selection?


81 posted on 11/04/2005 9:29:29 AM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: mikeus_maximus

what do you mean by "random selection"?

I am familiar with random mutation, and environmental (and other) selective pressures - which are not entirely unpatterened - but not "random selection"

I don't believe I have ever seen "random selection" described by an evolutionary scientist, geneticist, or biologist as part of the process of heritance and speciation.

please, by all means, explain: what exactly do you believe "random selection" means?


92 posted on 11/04/2005 10:16:01 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: mikeus_maximus
...random selection...

As Bob Hope in the classic western Son of Paleface said to a couple of special effect buzzards/penguins ... "You're making it ridiculous!"

178 posted on 11/04/2005 1:58:58 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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