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To: twinzmommy; Post-Neolithic; austen; Antoninus; GadareneDemoniac; Diago; coop71

So, this is my last post for now on this thread. I need to get my own children's school day started and do my own stats homework.

What I do want to say though before I go . .

Yes, I'm a conservative. Never voted anything but Republican in my life.

Yes, I'm a married woman. 14 years. Same man. Two children. Happy life.

Yes, I'm anti-socialized medicine. That is in fact what I was saying about keeping the gov't out of my doctor's office.

Yes, I'm pro-life. But how to explain -- Women will continue to get abortions. They did pre- Roe v. Wade and will do so after the fact. The answer isn't in the legislation, it's in EDUCATION. And counseling. And things along those lines. I admire the Crisis Pregnancy Centers -- I may not always agree with their methods but they are doing something and saving lives. But spending all this energy worrying about the law isn't going to change anything. Counsel the girls and woman, and leave the laws alone. The money and time and other resources can be better spent.

Yes, I love my children. If they came out as lesbians, I would still love them. Don't open this can of worms -- think Dick Cheney.

No, who my niece is, isn't always perfectly fine. But it has nothing to do with her sexuality. She's a royal pain in the arse most days, but that is just her.

Yes, I support the right to keep and bear arms.

No, I wouldn't have owned slaves.

Yes, I know the Holocaust happened.

Yes, I know that Judaism doesn't like homosexuality, but the act that is specifically forbidden is anal sex. That is what I was referring to. Each branch of Judaism has a slightly different view on this. Producing children is one mitzvah. It's one that a gay couple theoretically can't fulfill. There are lots of others they can and do fulfill.

So my last question, what happens to the Republican party if all the conservatives like me stop supporting it? By the private messages I've received (and wow I wish ALL of you would post here too), the really far right side would be standing in the cold, alone. This party is made up of a spectrum of beliefs. Please don't forget that. Sometimes compromise is necessary is it not?

Respect to all of you, and thank you for this morning's debate. This is my last bump for now (because as it was pointed out I've bumped this thread a lot LOL).

~twinzmommy


49 posted on 11/04/2005 6:59:00 AM PST by twinzmommy
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To: twinzmommy
Yes, I'm pro-life. But how to explain

If you have to explain, you're probably not pro-life.

Yes, I love my children. If they came out as lesbians, I would still love them. Don't open this can of worms -- think Dick Cheney. No, who my niece is, isn't always perfectly fine. But it has nothing to do with her sexuality. She's a royal pain in the arse most days, but that is just her.

Your niece has a psychological problem which, in most cases, is brought about by sexual abuse by a man at a young age or physical abuse by a spouse or boyfriend. Instead of taking the easy road of false compassion--which will ultimately affirm her in her hideous lifestyle choice--why not attempt to lead her out of it? After all, that's really what adult family members are for--helping the younger ones get on the right track. If you had a daughter or a niece who was a drug addict, I don't assume you'd affirm them in that particular lifestyle, would you? Or an alcoholic? Or a prostitute?
53 posted on 11/04/2005 7:31:58 AM PST by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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