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Did 'revoked' living willkill communicative man?
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 4, 2005 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 11/04/2005 3:24:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser

Family members are investigating what they consider to be suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of a nursing home patient at the center of a life and death tug-of-war reminiscent of the Terri Schiavo tragedy.

Seventy-nine-year-old Jimmy Chambers died in the early morning hours of Oct. 24 after the tracheotomy tubes that deliver oxygen from a ventilator to a hole in his neck became unhooked. Family members were told Chambers, a resident of the Anne Maria Rehabilitation and Nursing Center in North Augusta, S.C., apparently pulled the interlocking tubes apart.

"We're having it investigated. We're just incredulous," Chambers' daughter, Deanna Potter, told WND in reference to her siblings. "The last time I saw dad he was blowing me a kiss. I blew him one and he blew one back."

The retired dispatcher for Holland Motor Express died approximately 10 hours later. His death certificate indicates he died of "natural causes."

"Apparently, suffocation is a 'natural cause' when you're on a ventilator. We're contesting that," said Potter. "He suffocated. He didn't just pass away. He struggled and fought. And I'm just so angry."

Potter estimates it would have taken 10 to 14 minutes for her father, deprived of oxygen, to fall unconscious, and questions why the nursing home staff didn't come to his aid.

"The oxygen-saturation meter and his ventilator both would have had alarms going off. Four-thirty, five o'clock in the morning you'd think someone would hear this," she added. "That's the thing that really bothers me and makes me suspicious."

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To: 8mmMauser
Prayers being said for Terri's family. I still can't believe that a totally helpless, disabled woman, was put through an agonizing 11 day execution by dehydration and starvation in the United States of America.

The one consolation I can think of, is that those who actively sought her extermination, and all who failed to stop the hideous crime, (cowardly politicians and spineless judges) will have to answer for it to God- they will not escape responsibility for what they did.

The only thing I can bring myself to pray for, for her "husband" and ghoul attorney Felos, is that their souls are spared from certain eternal damnation, that God will bring them to immediate justice and repentance.

Terri's death did shine a light into the pit of darkness that is euthanasia. The new Nazis will not be able to hide the ugliness and evil of their plan so easily anymore.

I pray for Terri's family that they will continue speaking out against the death lobby.

621 posted on 12/04/2005 4:39:55 PM PST by Pajamajan (The Democrat party proudly brings you the new and improved Soviet Union.)
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To: 8mmMauser; floriduh voter; Ohioan from Florida

ACLU Rewards George Greer (Shiavo Judge) For Death Sentence

"That’s Right, the ACLU has selected Judge George Greer to receive the Gardner W. Beckett Jr. Civil Liberties Award. Civil liberties alright, what ever happened the inalienable right to Life? George Greer upon the insistence of political crony George Felos conspired to murder Teri Schiavo last spring."

Read the rest of the article at Stop the ACLU

622 posted on 12/06/2005 4:08:03 AM PST by amdgmary
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To: amdgmary

It comes as no surprise that the American Communist Liberals Union would be thrilled at how Judge Greed advanced the communist agenda.

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623 posted on 12/06/2005 5:41:27 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; presently no screen name; Abby4116; Alissa; ..
For those who have not seen the tribute to Terri on her birthday, here is the thread by goldstategop

The Silence Over Terri

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624 posted on 12/06/2005 5:51:49 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: amdgmary

Egads, where were Terri's civil liberties?


625 posted on 12/06/2005 6:48:59 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Pajamajan

"The only thing I can bring myself to pray for, for her "husband" and ghoul attorney Felos, is that their souls are spared from certain eternal damnation, that God will bring them to immediate justice and repentance."

No, I have to disagree with you! I believe they deserve Certain Eternal Damnation! for the Horrible Torture they put Terri and her entire real family.


626 posted on 12/06/2005 8:25:39 AM PST by True Republican Patriot
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To: True Republican Patriot; All
I agree with you that they deserve eternal damnation. I have a terrible time trying to pray for anything about them,- seems to be totally unfair that they haven't been struck down.

But, every time I open the Bible, I end up in some section or another,like this- Ex. Sirach 21 vs. 9 and 10 (Old Testament Catholic Bible)

9: A band of criminals is like a bundle of tow;
they will end in flaming fire.

10: The path of sinners is smooth stones
that end in the depths of the nether world.

Or I open up to the Book of Nahum (old Testament Catholic Bible) vs. 3 stands out :

3: The Lord is slow to anger, yet great in power,
and the Lord never leaves the guilty
unpunished.
In hurricane and tempest is his path
and clouds are the dust of his feet.

(Not assuming anything about the hurricane part,- I focus more on the "the Lord never leaves the guilty unpunished" verse- but it's interesting isn't it?)

Wisdom 3 vs. 1-12 is comforting .

Psalm 73 all of it- vs. 1-28 seems to be an answer to my prayers/questions of why- I recommend anyone who has been feeling like Schiavo and company got away with the evil they inflicted on Terri and her family - read that Psalm.

In the New Testament Luke 7 vs.43 - 45. Basically these two are about - A Tree Known by its Fruit

45: A good person out of the store of goodness in his heart produces good.,
but, an evil person out of a store of evil produces evil; for from the fullness of the heart the mouth speaks.
(Possibly this is why the Schiavo crowd seems to be heaping insult onto injury.)

I find it very difficult to pray for Schiavo and Felos. But, thier final fate is awful. Read Wisdom 17 -It's about the plagues sent on the Egyptians- the Darkness that God sent them. That was not just darkness- as it is at night- it was the Nether World. (it didn't effect the Israelites because it has no power over God.) What a scary description of what happens to those who are against God.

Schiavo and company may be having a good time now, but, if they don't repent- they will bring eternal damnation upon themselves.

627 posted on 12/06/2005 10:32:59 AM PST by Pajamajan (Benedict Arnold, Tim Mc Veigh and John Murtha all served in the US military.)
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To: Pajamajan; True Republican Patriot

Try this verse also:
Deuteronomy 32:35
'Vengeance is Mine, and retribution, In due time their foot will slip; For the day of their calamity is near, And the impending things are hastening upon them.'

If we seek vengeance, we become like them. We can seek justice through the system that is in place, but it certainly doesn't guarantee justice or anything that looks like it. The only place we will ever find justice is in the presence of the Almighty God..... and His command is this: Forgive those who trespass against us.

Forgive and you will be free. Besides, the best revenge is living well, and what is better than being free? No government or judge can limit that kind of freedom.

Also, after you are free from seeking vengeance you can commit yourself to working hard to PREVENT this type of injustice in the future. Terri Schindler deserves that her name will be connected to a group of people who have taken their freedom and commitments seriously enough to stop living in the past and live victoriously into the future.


628 posted on 12/06/2005 12:39:55 PM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: amdgmary

Have you read the comments to the article underneath it? I am constantly amazed by the number of people who don't use the brains they're given, and believe the information they are spoon-fed, yet didn't want Terri to be spoon-fed real food.


629 posted on 12/06/2005 12:42:41 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: DadsGirl
Terri Schindler deserves that her name will be connected to a group of people who have taken their freedom and commitments seriously enough to stop living in the past and live victoriously into the future.

I really like the way you put that!

P.S.- How're you doing?

630 posted on 12/06/2005 12:45:18 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: DadsGirl

Well said. Actually Terri's death has had the opposite effect of what the death freaks wanted. It has shed light on what they are up to, and the sheer ugliness and evil of their plan. People didn't know, I didn't know, before this happened. Now we can work for change, so that it never happens again.


631 posted on 12/06/2005 12:57:36 PM PST by Pajamajan (Benedict Arnold, Tim Mc Veigh and John Murtha all served in the US military.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

I'm living victoriously into the future. My Dad loved to dance and I keep seeing him dancing in the presence of God. We're working to make sure that what happened to Dad is made open and public to hopefully prevent that kind of travesty in someone else's life. Tons to deal with, but, quite frankly, I'm seeing the glory of God in ways that I never imagined. Great things are happening... I read these threads whenever I can and I am blown away by the level of commitment that I see on these pages. One of the blessings that has come out of all of this is that I'm a Freeper. It's great to be associated with these people.


632 posted on 12/06/2005 1:21:10 PM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: Pajamajan

You know, you make a great point. Whenever the death merchants act, they overplay their hand. All things will be in the open and they will have nowhere to hide. I believe Terri will smile to know that her death will be instrumental in preventing the torture and death of others.


633 posted on 12/06/2005 1:23:58 PM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: DadsGirl

:-)

I agree, some pretty fantastic people are on these forums!


634 posted on 12/06/2005 1:30:55 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: amdgmary
Florida's world reknowned KILLER JUDGE WHO KILLS THE DISABLED.

www.judgegeorgegreer.com (this is how they did it)

635 posted on 12/06/2005 2:29:07 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; presently no screen name; Abby4116; Alissa; ..
The thread I pinged earlier refers to the Silence, and so much is true. I am still amazed that the topic remains hot and current these many months later. As the death merchants succeed to some extent is nudging the topic off the burner, it keeps coming back. Here are some diverse links current today:

First Michael shows once again his inability to eradicate his crime. He has turned to forming a PAC with him as Chairman Schiavo. So far only Salon carries it, so that should tell us a lot. I did not read it myself because I have no interest in giving that site hits, but just point out he is still threshing around. I hope none who read this bother to give Salon any benefit by registering with them.

This is another case illustrating the topic is still so hot he hasn't been able to cool it.

Michael Schiavo joins the fray

Parts is parts. Don't bother to ask for an aspirin when they find you have a nice shiny happy heart and the big buck transplant recipient is just down the hall.

Bill would make organ donation automatic for drivers in South Carolina

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636 posted on 12/07/2005 3:54:20 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
The case is somewhat unusual and different from that of Terri Schiavo because here the family member who wants to make sure an incapacitated patient isn't killed is the person who put the patient in the incapacitated state.

Eleven Year-Old Child Abuse Victim Next Subject of Euthanasia Debate

Court hears "right to die" case of battered girl

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637 posted on 12/07/2005 3:58:50 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; All
Thanks for the ping.

Knesset approves Passive Euthanasia Law

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638 posted on 12/07/2005 4:02:13 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: DadsGirl

Your posts are a joy to read.


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639 posted on 12/07/2005 4:07:49 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; floriduh voter; Ohioan from Florida; BykrBayb
This is Michael Schiavo's new website:

www.terripac.org

MICHAEL SCHIAVO ANNOUNCES NEW POLITICAL COMMITTEE


640 posted on 12/07/2005 4:20:34 AM PST by amdgmary (Read www.northcountrygazette.com)
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