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To: bondserv
Questions: Is a person of character who washes toilets for a living better than a person lacking character smugly doing big deals with a cell phone glued to their ear?

My response:

Why not do both?? You can be educated, accomplished, and even a scientist and also be a Christian, a family man (person), and spend time with your kids and family.

One of my best friends, whom I have known since we were in graduate school together, certainly can do both. He is an MIT Ph.D; a competent and successful scientist by any measure. However, every year for the past 20 years he and his wife have lead his church group to Mexico to build 4 homes over spring break. They take about 80 high school kids to do it. My daughter goes every year. Most will go all 4 years of high school.

It is possible to do both.

There is no positive correlation between being uneducated and being good. Or being educated and being un-Christian. They are simply separate issues. The simple fact is that believing in the obvious science and evidence for evolution does not make one anti-God or anti-religion. However, it is arguably true that being anti-evolution is clearly being anti-education and anti-science.

59 posted on 11/02/2005 8:55:12 AM PST by 2ndreconmarine
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To: 2ndreconmarine
Of course what you now say is true.

Do you wish to continue denigrating the janitors because your kids understand the scientific positions of today?

Science is entertaining and sometimes helpful. Knowledge is not worthy of worship. It's primary value is that it can enrich our understanding of how awesome our Creator is making us less prideful and more humble.

Dennis Prager came up with a question that helps people to be aware of their personal alignments.

Which would upset you more:
a. Your child was caught smoking cigarettes.
b. Your child was caught cheating on a test.





Those who found (a) to be more upsetting were guided by a humanistic compass, and those who found (b) to be more upsetting were guided by a moral compass. The more one had to think it through, the more confused they are.

The humanistic compass points at ourselves and our natural limited understanding of reality (those with the biggest guns are reality -- Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Democrats...). Whereas, the moral compass points to the Creator and, by definition, His complete understanding of reality. The founders were clear on this point and modern Scientism has done more to move our country away from it's brilliant inception.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...."

Thankfully rights endowed by the Creator supersede the whimsical understandings of men. Reason does not lead one to righteousness. Righteousness can only come from One who understands how all things work.

68 posted on 11/02/2005 9:57:26 AM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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