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To: 2ndreconmarine
Of course what you now say is true.

Do you wish to continue denigrating the janitors because your kids understand the scientific positions of today?

Science is entertaining and sometimes helpful. Knowledge is not worthy of worship. It's primary value is that it can enrich our understanding of how awesome our Creator is making us less prideful and more humble.

Dennis Prager came up with a question that helps people to be aware of their personal alignments.

Which would upset you more:
a. Your child was caught smoking cigarettes.
b. Your child was caught cheating on a test.





Those who found (a) to be more upsetting were guided by a humanistic compass, and those who found (b) to be more upsetting were guided by a moral compass. The more one had to think it through, the more confused they are.

The humanistic compass points at ourselves and our natural limited understanding of reality (those with the biggest guns are reality -- Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Democrats...). Whereas, the moral compass points to the Creator and, by definition, His complete understanding of reality. The founders were clear on this point and modern Scientism has done more to move our country away from it's brilliant inception.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...."

Thankfully rights endowed by the Creator supersede the whimsical understandings of men. Reason does not lead one to righteousness. Righteousness can only come from One who understands how all things work.

68 posted on 11/02/2005 9:57:26 AM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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To: bondserv
The humanistic compass points at ourselves and our natural limited understanding of reality (those with the biggest guns are reality -- Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Democrats...). Whereas, the moral compass points to the Creator and, by definition, His complete understanding of reality.

Then explain this to me, bondserv. At the Dover School Board trial, several members of the creationist school board have been shown in court testimony to have lied under oath in their depositions; and it appears they colluded with each other in advance to do so. On the other hand, the defense has been unable to impeach the integrity of any of the plaintiffs.

If these particular creationists have a moral compass, they apparently seem to think the needle points south.

72 posted on 11/02/2005 10:06:11 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (A creationist conjugates: I misspeak, you fabricate, he lies....)
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To: bondserv
Which would upset you more:
a. Your child was caught smoking cigarettes.
b. Your child was caught cheating on a test.

A fair reply, bondserv.

Right Wing Professor has also answered your post in part. I will also answer.

My answer to your question: Clearly "b" is more important to me.

However, where we apparently disagree is that "a", although less important, is not of zero importance. Science still has value. You apparently disagree????

132 posted on 11/03/2005 1:32:44 PM PST by 2ndreconmarine
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