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George Will: Let the Great Debate Begin
Washington Post Writers Group ^ | November 1, 2005 | George F. Will

Posted on 11/01/2005 3:56:30 AM PST by RWR8189

WASHINGTON -- With the nomination of Samuel Alito, the nation's long-term needs and the president's immediate needs converge.

Our nation properly takes its political bearings, always, from the Constitution, properly construed on the basis of deep immersion in the intellectual ferment of the Founding Era that produced it. That is why our democracy inescapably functions under some degree of judicial supervision. The nation has long needed a serious debate about the proper nature of that supervision. And the president needed both a chance to demonstrate his seriousness and an occasion to challenge his Democratic critics to demonstrate theirs in a momentous battle on terrain of his choosing. The Alito nomination begins that debate.

When Churchill's wife said it was perhaps a blessing in disguise that British voters turned him out of office even before the war in the Pacific ended, he growled that, if so, it was very well disguised. President Bush must realize that the failure of the Harriet Miers nomination was such a blessing.

He quickly cauterized that self-inflicted wound and acted on this political axiom: If you don't like the news, make some of your own. Presidents are uniquely able to do this, and Bush, because of his statesmanlike termination of the Miers nomination, was poised to reorient the national conversation. And because of the glittering credentials that earned Alito unanimous Senate confirmation to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, those Democrats who are determined to oppose him are unhappily required to make one of two intellectually disreputable arguments.

One is so politically as well as intellectually untenable that they will try not to make it explicitly. It is that judicial conservatism may once have been a legitimate persuasion, but now is a disqualification for service on the Supreme Court.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alito; georgewill; judgealito; robertscourt; samalito; samuelalito; scotus; will
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1 posted on 11/01/2005 3:56:31 AM PST by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

George was right about Miers, and he's right about Alito.


2 posted on 11/01/2005 4:00:37 AM PST by ContraryMary
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To: RWR8189

I thought all these anti-Miers people were suppose to hate anyone Bush nominates. They are all just Bush-hating liberals disgusing themselves as conservatives.


3 posted on 11/01/2005 4:02:55 AM PST by Always Right
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To: RWR8189
When Churchill's wife said it was perhaps a blessing in disguise that British voters turned him out of office even before the war in the Pacific ended, he growled that, if so, it was very well disguised. President Bush must realize that the failure of the Harriet Miers nomination was such a blessing.

LOL

4 posted on 11/01/2005 4:04:47 AM PST by GOPJ (Is every democrat a bent kneed Monica?)
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To: RWR8189
Reid urged the president to nominate Miers, whose withdrawal Reid says he laments. Now Reid deplores the Alito nomination because it was, Reid says, done without Democratic ``consultation.'' But it was during such consultation that, Reid says, he warned the president not to nominate Alito. So Reid's logic is that nothing counts as consultation unless it results in conformity to Democratic dictates.

Classic Dem-speak.

5 posted on 11/01/2005 4:12:24 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: RWR8189

What I love best about the Alito nomination is that he is not a woman. I have nothing against women on the Supreme Court, but I love it when the President cuts across the grain and nominates a man when everyone says he has to nominate a woman. Putting a pie in the face of Conventional Wisdom just tickles my funnybone.

Plus, replacing O'Connor with a woman would have strengthened the perception that her position was a "Woman's Seat" on the court. Such a notion should be repugnant to all.


6 posted on 11/01/2005 4:22:02 AM PST by gridlock (Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... Monty Burns)
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To: GOPJ

One of the great things about writing your own memoirs is that you can always supply yourself with the most wonderful quotes at the most appropriate times. I often wonder how many of these things Winston Churchill never said.


7 posted on 11/01/2005 4:23:37 AM PST by gridlock (Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... Monty Burns)
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To: RWR8189
I love to watch the Dems squirm as the president goes about his business and they stand on the sidelines complaining.
8 posted on 11/01/2005 4:44:54 AM PST by msnimje ("People for the American Way have issued a Fatwah against Alito" --- John Cornyn)
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To: RWR8189
Last December, Harry Reid, leader of Senate Democrats, said that Scalia would be a fine nominee for chief justice. Reid doubtless would [say] that Scalia would have been acceptable only because he was replacing someone comparably conservative -- William Rehnquist...When Reid endorsed Scalia for chief justice, he said: "I disagree with many of the results that he arrives at, but his reason for arriving at those results are (sic) very hard to dispute." There you have, starkly and ingenuously confessed, the judicial philosophy -- if it can be dignified as such -- of Reid and like-minded Democrats: Regardless of constitutional reasoning that can be annoyingly hard to refute, we care only about results. -George Will

I think most Democrats idea of Constitutional interpretation consists of recasting the words in terms of modern liberalism. They do believe in applying the Constitution exactly in that way and to that degree.

Why does Will give so much weight to Reid's views on Scalia in this column? Also, you can value someone's reasoning ability and still disagree with the Constitutional interpretation, without going all the way to pure results orientation.

9 posted on 11/01/2005 4:55:07 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: gridlock
"One of the great things about writing your own memoirs is that you can always supply yourself with the most wonderful quotes at the most appropriate times. I often wonder how many of these things Winston Churchill never said."
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let's not let the cat out of that bag, a good editor and
publicist are worth their weight in witty replies let's keep the ghost writers out of it too.
10 posted on 11/01/2005 5:03:20 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: ContraryMary
George was right about Miers, and he's right about Alito.

And was he right about Bush as well, an idiot not capable of making an informed choice for SCOTUS?

11 posted on 11/01/2005 5:09:06 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: RWR8189

Oh, shut up, George.


12 posted on 11/01/2005 5:15:34 AM PST by Mamzelle (.)
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To: gridlock
have nothing against women on the Supreme Court, but I love it when the President cuts across the grain and nominates a man when everyone says he has to nominate a woman

I agree 100%! (and I'm a woman).

I ultimately joined the "anti-Miers" camp, and I haven't been able to stop smiling since, oh, about 9 a.m. yesterday when I heard the news.

The Dems are panicked, btw. They keep trying to change the subject. All I heard on CNN this a.m. was Libby/Iraq/the levees in N.O.

Oh, I just heard an announcement: tonight! Larry King!

The latest on Joe Wilson and the Scooter Libby Investigation! LOL!!!!! Like anyone outside the beltway really cares. They won't stop trying, though.

13 posted on 11/01/2005 5:15:41 AM PST by proud American in Canada (I am in such a good mood today, and tomorrow, and the next day, and... Thank you, President Bush!)
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To: gridlock
" Putting a pie in the face of Conventional Wisdom " ....

Correction :

Putting a pie in the face of " Political Correctness " .
14 posted on 11/01/2005 5:16:56 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: gridlock
A woman once chastised Winston Churchill for being drunk.

Woman : " Winston ? your drunk ! "

Winston Churchill : " WOMAN ? your ugly, but, at least tomorrow I'll be sober, and you will still be ugly ".



Woman : " Winston ? if I were your wife, I would give you poison "

Winston Churchill : " WOMAN ? if I was your husband, I would drink it "
15 posted on 11/01/2005 5:23:46 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: jwalsh07
And was he [George Will] right about Bush as well, an idiot not capable of making an informed choice for SCOTUS?

He [President Bush] has neither the inclination nor the ability to make sophisticated judgments about competing approaches to construing the Constitution. Few presidents acquire such abilities in the course of their prepresidential careers, and this president, particularly, is not disposed to such reflections.

Furthermore, there is no reason to believe that Miers' nomination resulted from the president's careful consultation with people capable of such judgments. If 100 such people had been asked to list 100 individuals who have given evidence of the reflectiveness and excellence requisite in a justice, Miers' name probably would not have appeared in any of the 10,000 places on those lists.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/georgewill/2005/10/04/159414.html


16 posted on 11/01/2005 5:31:32 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Mamzelle
Oh, shut up, George.

Why? I highly doubt (from your reply, if nothing else), that you could have written anything even close to as intelligent as this column.

17 posted on 11/01/2005 5:37:15 AM PST by Young Scholar
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To: Young Scholar
Will is pretentious, portentous and tendentious. He's so adoring of his own prose (and his own dear self) that his notions smother aborning. The left keep him around as a grey-muzzled pet in bow tie--Brooks is another. I wish they'd retire, and let writers with a little life in them have their places. Coulter, Malkin, etc.

Our pundits exist to enlighten and entertain. I'm always interested that FRs will treat them as old warhorses to whom we owe some touching loyalty rather than cocktail-party wordsmiths who scribble rather than get their hands dirty. Seldom do we ever stop to ask the likes of Will--"What have you done for us lately, besides feathering your own literary nest?"

Will's piece on Miers (her appointment was whimscal and I'm delighted with Alito) was a snobbish, snooty, condescending collection of dreary dependent clauses. The Willsian self-infatuation was the only thing shining through...

18 posted on 11/01/2005 5:55:59 AM PST by Mamzelle (.)
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To: onyx; Miss Marple
"Self-inflicted wound," Will says, putting down the butcher knife and the torch, and rinsing the blood off his hands.

Effete, prissy pig.

Dan

19 posted on 11/01/2005 6:12:23 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Mamzelle

Ooh, well-said.


20 posted on 11/01/2005 6:13:38 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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