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DeWine Says He'll Back Ban On Filibusters In US Senate
Associated Press ^ | November 1, 2005

Posted on 11/01/2005 12:40:15 AM PST by RWR8189

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To: Lancey Howard
See post 24 above for a summary of which nominations are pending, as well as some pertinent history on each.

If I recall correctly, Saad was the only one who was definitely thrown overboard by the Republicans.

He is still in Committee. The only way the nomination can be "definitely thrown overboard" is for the President to withdraw it, or the Senate to return it to the President. Neither of those has happened with Saad. More on Saad below ...

In any event, the three most controversial of the bunch, Brown, Owen, and Pryor, WERE confirmed quickly and without fuss following announcement of "the deal".

Those were/are not the most controversial. They were the ones negotiated to an up or down vote by the gang of 14. Aas you noted, Saad is controversial, and I think Myers is also quite controversial.

Of the Circuit Court nominations remaining, my personal opinion of the "rank order" from least contentious to most likely to trigger the nuclear option goes something like this:

  1. Neilson (easily confirmed)
  2. Boyle (some contention, but will easily get an up or down vote)
  3. Myers (Reid once offered as an acceptable nomination)
  4. Haynes (Nelson and Landrieu may support cloture)
  5. Kavanaugh (Nelson and Landrieu may support cloture)
  6. Saad


41 posted on 11/01/2005 8:04:10 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: RWR8189

Dewine will vote for Alito because he knows to do otherwise will end his Senate career. That's one RINO down.


42 posted on 11/01/2005 8:23:29 AM PST by Cautor
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To: ken5050

Time to put the RINO's feet to the fire on this one.


43 posted on 11/01/2005 8:24:58 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: RWR8189

Mike DeWine on Hugh Hewitt
Radioblogger ^ | 10/31/05 | Mike DeWine / Hugh Hewitt

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513318/posts


44 posted on 11/01/2005 8:28:17 AM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: Cboldt

Thanks for your reply.


45 posted on 11/01/2005 8:51:56 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RWR8189


One of those, the Family Research Council from Washington, said DeWine had taken a "step in the right direction" and showed the weakness of the coalition, known as the Gang of 14.

"It's probably the result of hearing from his constituents," said council president Tony Perkins.

Wrong ...

Here's something about Graham but it applies equally to DeWine:

"I heard Graham speaking about the MoU IMMEDIATELY after it was announced. He was very, very aware that his conservative supporters would be vocal in their opposition to his taking part in the gang. He EXPECTED the phone lines and fax machines to be burning up with their opposition.

"Nevertheless, he did it because HE BELIEVED it was the RIGHT thing to do, and that the Senate would operate more smoothly this session if the nuke did not have to be resorted to.

"His explaining NOW is not something being done only in retrospect: he was well aware that his conservative supporters would strongly question his judgement. He asked that they watch, wait and see if that judgement was good or bad. Thus far, the results have been good and no filibuster has been attempt by the Senate on judicial nominations.

"Agree or disagree with his decision in this case, he followed through on what he believed to be right and for the good of the country. I commend any politician who does this, and who refuses to be governed by polls. We don't elect them to blindly follow OUR orders, but to do what THEY believe to be right. That is why integrity is the single most important quality for an elected official, and why I was so opposed to the 'Toon.

"(Other FReepers have told me that DeWine was similarly immediate with his response after the MoU, but I can't personally vouch for him.) If you take a look at the way these two are rated by almost any conservative organization, on nearly every issue, you'll find they almost invariably top the list of good Senators. These two are definitely not RINOs.

"Much like Ron Paul, who often breaks with the "R" leadership and whose judgement I similarly find questionable at times, I applaud this type of personal responsibility for their voting. This type of principled independence has to be applauded (unlike the continual grandstanding that McCain does just to get the accolades of the Old Media) and our support should not waiver when they, who are in the middle of the stewpot, choose to do something because they believe they can see better through the murkiness than those of us who are not in the middle of the situation.

"I reiterate: I personally will vouch that the "explaining done since" by Graham was immediate, well before the publicity accompanying the MoU, and not in response to the outcry of the conservative base."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513219/posts?page=9#9

It is disturbing to me that someone from the very well respected Family Research Council would propagate such mythology implying that DeWine (or Graham) have changed their approach to the Constitutional Option, or that they in any way have reconsidered their "gang of 14" membership simply because of constituent pressure.


46 posted on 11/01/2005 11:21:08 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Cboldt

"I would think that a good gauge of "extraordinary circumstance" is that it represents a judge that the Congress would entertain impeachment proceedings against."

Great observation, and I totally agree with that gauge!


47 posted on 11/01/2005 11:26:05 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: aynrandfreak; adamsjas; freedom4me; goldstategop; libertylover; johnny7; wouldntbprudent; ...

That's not true. See post#46


48 posted on 11/01/2005 11:34:45 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: RWR8189
The only good thing that ever came out of that stupid deal, which was just plain wrong, was that it essentially gave guys like Graham veto power over when the democrats could and couldn't use the judicial filibuster.

He just said, they can't, and thats going to be that.

49 posted on 11/01/2005 2:48:41 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: AFPhys

They will not be able to filibuster. If they do, the nuclear option WILL be instituted.


50 posted on 11/01/2005 6:25:52 PM PST by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: ALWAYSWELDING

Oh, I do agree the nuke would be tried... whether it succeeds or not depends in large part on Specter. That does NOT make me comfortable at all. That is why I hope it is not necessary.


51 posted on 11/01/2005 6:33:14 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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