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Prove them wrong in an arguement, and they won't acknowledge it, just vault off on another arguement as if it proved them right...

No, actually it's much worse than that. The mistake that people of good will - i.e. most Americans, make is thinking that there is an even playing table with respect to debates on "policy issues". Leftists are most assuredly not interested truth or reality, insofar as it is an obstacle, not surprisingly, to their agendas. They simply aren't interested in facts, unless they can be used in their favor. Another fatal mistake that regular working stiffs make is a somewhat naive willingness to compromise. "Compromise" in leftist-speak means "Do what we say.." etc. etc. They have various buear, er, red-tape strategies. First, wow them with BS. "Experts" will explain what's going on to you. Lots of fancy buzz-words. Of course you can't be expected, nor should you even try, to understand. This is known since ancient times as "Appeal to Authority" - a classic rhetorical device.

Unfortunately, if you _insist_ on bringing facts or reality to the table, generally they will not concede the point to the point of ad nauseum. Generally this is a good time for them to change the subject, label you as "extremist" and worse. But, as long as they get what they want, they don't care what you think - period. As a practical matter first and foremost they seek to _define the terms_ of the debate, since only then can they "win", which is always preferable. Once you get the hang of it, it's very easy to pick apart just about any story and reverse-engineer what's really happening remotely, the bias found in newsprint and the TV and radio is really bad. Further, even the basic nuts and bolts part of writing has declined noticeably in recent years. Anyeay, this is why public PC speech codes come in, and are so very important, they are not only an end-run around free speech, they squash any public discussion quickly into accusations of bigotry and racism - perfect foils - if one can't even _discuss_ certain subjects, certainly nothing else can follow. It's very Soviet, very subtle.