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9-11, Pearl Harbor for the MTV Generation (Vanity about our warriors in Iraq/Afghanistan)
10-29-2005 | self

Posted on 10/29/2005 4:51:23 AM PDT by geedee

I'm guessing 9-11 affected most of my fellow FReepers as it did millions and millions of others, myself included. My family and some other families of soldiers who have served or are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan are compiling the hundreds and hundreds of emails we've received from them since 9-11. We plan on publishing them in a book . . . with ALL THE PROCEEDS GOING TO THE FAMILIES OF THOSE WHO PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE FOR OUR FREEDOM.

I'm responsible for getting some replies from everyday Americans after they've read some of the emails . . . and many of these replies will also be in the book.

I'm trying to figure out the best way to solicit these "everyday" Americans. We're thinking of calling the book . . . 9-11, Pearl Harbor for the MTV Generation. Would some of you be interested in participating in our project?


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The plan is to fill the prospective "commenters" in about the young men/women who wrote the emails, where they were and what they were doing when they wrote them, then get the "commenters" take on the emails.

But I must warn you . . . the emails are graphic and heart-breaking as we find ourselves on the frontlines of the War on Terror . . . yet they're somehow exhilirating as we see before our very eyes that our youngsters are willingly and enthusiastically taking the reins of governance and stewardship from my generation . . . and we're in damn good hands.

I often worried about today's generation of "Me, me, me" youngsters . . . but when the rubber met the road on 9-11 our youngsters stepped forward just like all the other generations of Americans did before them.

We're in good hands.

We're not planning on doing anything anytime REAL soon . . . we're just trying to get organized. We want to pay homage to this country's newest heroes . . . but one can't pay homage until the war is won and we know better than most that this War on Terror will be long and costly . . . with your children and my children footing most of the bill.

Would you help us? We're not interested in donations . . . in fact, we WON'T TAKE DONATIONS . . . we just want some "commenters."

1 posted on 10/29/2005 4:51:24 AM PDT by geedee
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To: geedee
Bless you and your loved one serving our country. The families of the soldiers are unsung heroes because you are their most direct support. I knew several dozen people who perished on 911. I considered enlisting and even called a recruiting office only to get confirmation that Im too old.

What you are looking to do sounds like a great idea. Maybe there can be a special thread or link on FR dedicated to these emails. I would very much like to read some for myself.
2 posted on 10/29/2005 5:36:10 AM PDT by DogBarkTree
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To: geedee
We're thinking of calling the book . . . 9-11, Pearl Harbor for the MTV Generation.

I would pass on that title personally. Associating anything with MTV is going to make it popcorn sounding in quick video bits of bad media.

Pearl Harbor was the day that will live in infamy, and quite frankly was nothing compared to 9/11. 9/11 was true Infamy. The murder of innocents.

3 posted on 10/29/2005 5:54:29 AM PDT by Bommer (TEXANS - VOTE NOV 8TH FOR PROPOSITION 2 - THE MARRIAGE PROTECTION AMENDMENT)
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"I would pass on that title personally. Associating anything with MTV is going to make it popcorn sounding in quick video bits of bad media."

I would have to agree with you on that point. It wouldnt be hard to come up with a much better title that honors the greatest part of today's generation.


4 posted on 10/29/2005 6:43:07 AM PDT by DogBarkTree
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To: geedee

How about 9-11 the next Great Generation. Talking with the young men outside Walter Reed Army Medical Center is inspiring. Their morale and good humor is unbelieveable.


5 posted on 10/29/2005 6:56:33 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother ( We need a few more Marines like Lt. Gen. James Mattis)
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To: DogBarkTree; Bommer
"I would pass on that title personally. Associating anything with MTV is going to make it popcorn sounding in quick video bits of bad media."

I would have to agree with you on that point. It wouldnt be hard to come up with a much better title that honors the greatest part of today's generation.

GOOD!! LOL.

I got out-voted on our initial meeting. I was the only old codger, meeting with a bunch of the wives, husbands, and children of our soldiers. I'll tell ya' how out of "it" I am . . . this is embarrassing, LOL . . . but I didn't even know what MTV was. And after my youngest daughter showed me on TV . . . I was glad. I've now blocked the channel so she can't watch it. VH-1 too.

I've sent all the "MTV-voters" your comments. Maybe y'all can knock some sense into them.

Dog, I agree with you about the "greatest part of today's generation." I'm old, fat, and senile . . . and I came into the fatherhood game late in life after adopting five children . . . and I must admit that based on some of the troubles my many nieces, nephews, and younger cousins got into, and still get into, I was really, really worried about this generation.

Then my nephew, my oldest child now -- a long story I won't bore you with -- enlisted. ENLISTED!! This only proved to me how irresponsible this generation was.

He only had one semester to go for a college degree . . . the first in his generation in our family to get a degree . . . a degree he worked his tail off to get in 3-1/2 years and be in the top 5% of his class . . . a degree that me and my other four children and one brother and one sister scrimped, saved, and slaved to pay for with our combined efforts and savings . . . a degree I HUNGERED for to serve as a shining example to his younger brothers and sisters.

And he "threw" it all away by enlisting in September of 2001.

I was one mad-disappointed Uncle/Father.

Until his Special Forces class finally graduated. Along with my near-college graduate son in this graduating class, there was one mid-20's lawyer, one guy one year away from being a doctor, one ex-college football jock who was starting for his university in his junior year but quit the team after 9-11, and one English-teaching "squirt" who looked like he couldn't push my wheelchair much less manage the rigors of the Special Forces . . . I later learned he was, my son's words - not mine, "the meanest sumbitch in the unit."

I bawled like a baby when I realized how selfish I'd been. Maybe all parents go through this, I don't know. But it floored me when I realized my son was now A MAN . . . doing the right thing for his country, despite my incessant bitching. He understood far better than I what was needed.

I've been his biggest Cheerleader ever since that day . . . to the chagrin of some of my fellow FReepers I'm sure since I bang my drum about him every chance I get. LOL.

Dog, this younger generation has far, far more mettle in their bones than any of us old kooks give them credit for. I don't think "Squirt" . . . yes, I nicknamed him that and I'm proud of the fact that I'm the ONLY one who gets away with calling him that . . . would mind if I shared an excerpted part of an email he sent his wife.

Again, these are Squirt's words, not mine . . .

"Ricky scored a goal today, Baby! You should've seen the sparkle in his eyes. None of us had ever seen him even smile but his grin would light _________'s football stadium. This light would've been the only thing that could've made you more beautiful on THAT night you were coronated Football Queen. I still tear-up when I think of how beautiful you were then, and how even more beautiful you are now. I love you, Baby."

Ricky? Ricky, obviously, wasn't his Arabic name but Squirt couldn't pronouce it so he assigned American names to all the youngsters they came into contact with. Ricky was ONE of seven Iraqi orphans Squirt's and my son's unit "adopted" their first tour there. Ricky had his left foot amputated after he stepped on a mine. Ricky's prosthetic foot was paid for by countless bake and garage sales. He'd been the most withdrawn of all the youngsters they knew. Squirt even worried that he might commit suicide, hence he took a special interest in Ricky. Squirt and my son saw Ricky every day they weren't in the field.

Years later and all five families and soldiers are still financially supporting the orphans as best we can. One of them will be going to school in Switzerland in January.

Squirt and my son's unit, along with some wonderful Seabees (sp?) cleared off a lot and built the neighborhood youngsters a soccer/football/baseball field. How those Seabees did it is beyond me . . . but according to my son it was absolutely the most beautiful field he ever saw -- hell, it even had grass and chalk lines to mark the field for whatever game they were playing. The field is still being used today . . . championship soccer and baseball games are played there.

The field is now named after Squirt.

He was killed the day after he wrote the above-mentioned letter to his lovely wife.

Squirt's wife is now in the process of formally and legally adopting Ricky.

So yes, Dog, my son and his generation have proven to this doubting Thomas that we Americans have nothing to worry about. We're in good hands.

I'm sorry this is so long and I'm sorry if it doesn't make much sense but my youngest daughter is typing this for me and it's hard to type and dictate when tears are flowing.

God, how I love my son and his comrads.

6 posted on 10/29/2005 10:00:14 AM PDT by geedee (Most people don't really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility and courage.)
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Thank you for sharing your story, GeeDee. Words cant fully express my compassion, gratitude, and respect for you, your son, and people of your calibers.
7 posted on 10/29/2005 1:07:23 PM PDT by DogBarkTree
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To: geedee
I have two young cousins serving. They're brothers and both are officers. One is in Afghanistan, the other currently stateside. They are both good young men that call me "sir". I tell you this so you know I have a personal stake in this.

I don't think that giving the proceeds to the families is a good idea. To me it smacks of blood money. Find a private organization that does work for veterans and veterans' families and send the proceeds to them.

Secondly, I will not be sending emails from them. They have a hard enough time expressing themselves as it is, and if I told them that their emails would be made public (and I would be obliged to tell them), it would probably chill their expression.

I know you mean well. This is just my "take" on it.

8 posted on 10/30/2005 6:37:27 AM PST by Anthem (The only 20th century advance in the science of government was to tax a little less to take more.)
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I don't think that giving the proceeds to the families is a good idea. To me it smacks of blood money.

Agreed. I wasn't very explicit on purpose because some punks of the liberal persuasion have taken to "whoring" out the name "Gold Star" lately. One of our prominent protagonists . . . LOL . . . has been associated with the REAL Gold Star organization for decades. The bulk of the money will go there.

They have a hard enough time expressing themselves as it is, and if I told them that their emails would be made public (and I would be obliged to tell them), it would probably chill their expression.

Five of the sixteen soldiers involved have opted out of this . . . for the reasons you cite. Also . . . wives, children, whoever can redact the emails at will -- provided one of three of us have a way to verify that the un-redacted part truly reflects "the spirit" of the emailed message.

Three of us have been involved in similar things since 1942! LOL. Yup, I'm not the oldest. One gal lost her brother in World War II when she was six. She's now going on 70 and she still runs like an old sewing machine. LOL. Actually, she's the one who got all us family members acquainted and she doesn't let us get too far out of line.

Thanks for your comments. If you can think of anything else we should guard against, please let me know.

9 posted on 10/31/2005 3:45:50 PM PST by geedee (Most people don't really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility and courage.)
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God bless. I wish you well. I pray for our young men and women every day, and I pray that this human folly is ended quickly.


10 posted on 10/31/2005 8:58:00 PM PST by Anthem (The only 20th century advance in the science of government was to tax a little less to take more.)
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