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1 posted on 10/28/2005 2:36:04 PM PDT by scientificbeliever
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2 posted on 10/28/2005 2:37:05 PM PDT by Borges
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What was the point of nitpicking through this article to post only one of these "reasons?" Do you have something against the state of Kansas?


3 posted on 10/28/2005 2:41:38 PM PDT by NapkinUser ("It is a damn poor mind indeed which can think of only one way to spell a word." -Andrew Jackson)
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They wanted to delete references to radiocarbon dating, continental drift and the fossil record from the education standards.

Fools. And I say that as a life-long Christian.

4 posted on 10/28/2005 2:42:13 PM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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5 posted on 10/28/2005 2:43:35 PM PDT by anonymous_user (This space available.)
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kansas ping


6 posted on 10/28/2005 2:44:52 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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I don't know if you've lurked around here or not, but Crevo threads can be a lot of fun.

They usually devolve (pun intended) into ad hominem attacks before too long...


8 posted on 10/28/2005 2:45:21 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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In 1999 a group of religious fundamentalists won election to the Kansas State Board of Education and tried to introduce creationism into the state's classrooms. They wanted to delete references to radiocarbon dating, continental drift and the fossil record from the education standards.

This shows that if these folks get in control its not just evolutionary biology on the chopping block. Also geology, sedimentology, paleontology, nuclear chemistry, and a host of other fields. They'd probably be happy trashing most of science in favor of their superstitions.

9 posted on 10/28/2005 2:45:26 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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I'd expect nothing less from Polular(ized) Science. Joe Shit the ragman wouldn't know 'science' if he was taught it.


10 posted on 10/28/2005 2:45:27 PM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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> "We've heard anecdotally that our students are getting much more scrutiny at places like medical schools."

Unsurprising. In the late 1990's, I was living in Lakewood, CO, on the outskirts of Denver, and one of the local students was trying to get the school board to pass a ruling that would force teachers to discuss other "theories" then just evolution. It was a raucus meeting, with speeker after speeaker form both sides.... but what finally clinched it was the kid himself. He got up, launched into his spiel and as soon as he said that the textbook he wanted was in use in Alabama, half of the room erupted in laughter. Nobody could take him seriously after the *next* speaker got up and simply said that the Lakewood school district would be lumped with Alabama.

In the end, reason prevailed and the forces of superstition were led out of the room by their pointy little ears. It was a sight to fill any true conservatives heart with joy and pride.


11 posted on 10/28/2005 2:45:56 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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The parents can take it to court. The so-called Christians are busy committing perjury in Dover. Taht case will be over soon, and with some luck the Intelligent Design scam will be taught as history.


13 posted on 10/28/2005 2:47:42 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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Alas, for Kansas's educational reputation, the damage may be done. "We've heard anecdotally that our students are getting much more scrutiny at places like medical schools.

I don't believe this for a moment. When making admission decisions, medical schools look at MCAT scores, college courses, college GPA, and so on; they generally do not consider high school work.

Besides, what does a evolution have to do with one's suitability to practice medicine?

14 posted on 10/28/2005 2:47:51 PM PDT by Logophile
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Signed up just today to post this, huh?

Who're you trying to kid?

16 posted on 10/28/2005 2:49:11 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad
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a group of religious fundamentalists

Someone should tell Popular Science not to use big words that they don't understand...

17 posted on 10/28/2005 2:49:11 PM PDT by Exigence
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The article omits the fact that evolution can't be tested by the scientific method either. Facts of paleontolgy, biology, biochemistry, etc., are open to interpretation based on the interpreter's preconceptions. The preconception on the part of the evolutionists is called 'naturalism.' When faced with a fact that is totally inexplicable and which probably always will be, they are not permitted to say "God did it", for then they would cease to be scientists and would become (horrors!) theologians. They say, and totally against all reason, "There MUST be a natural explanation for this!


23 posted on 10/28/2005 2:55:36 PM PDT by Designed
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Why not save concepts like "Intelligent Design" or solipsism for a philosophy course?

Not to say those are invalid ideas, but they are about as scientific as a hippy wondering aloud whether "we all, like, live in the matrix and don't know it, man?" Included in a philosophy course would be discussions of ethics and responsibility as described by Aristotle, Confucius, and, of course, Jesus of Nazareth. I spent 3 months in haiti on a missionary trip and found that the French model of education calls for rigorous study of the underpinnings of Western thought.


27 posted on 10/28/2005 2:58:48 PM PDT by pidgin_toes
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Being a biology teacher in Kansas is probably much better than, say in NYC. The pay is good, you don't have the level of drugs and violence you have in the largest cities, and I doubt any of them are staying up nights worrying about teaching ID.

The author seems a bit of a drama queen.

40 posted on 10/28/2005 3:09:30 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: PatrickHenry; <1/1,000,000th%; balrog666; BMCDA; Condorman; Dimensio; Doctor Stochastic; ...

My grandfather wasn't a monkey ping.


66 posted on 10/28/2005 3:29:17 PM PDT by shuckmaster (Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
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These Creationist whackjobs won't be satisfied until we're all living back in the Dark Ages. I've already seen the Dark Ages; they're called Muslim societies. Thanks but no thanks.


98 posted on 10/28/2005 4:35:03 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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The problem for teachers is that ID can't be tested using the scientific method, the system of making, testing and retesting hypotheses that is the bedrock of science.

Neither can evolution!!!

104 posted on 10/28/2005 4:53:50 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America)
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Just driving by?


120 posted on 10/28/2005 5:47:45 PM PDT by cynicom
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