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Libby indicted on obstruction of justice, false statement and perjury charge - RESIGNS
http://drudgereport.com/ ^ | October 28, 2005

Posted on 10/28/2005 9:45:41 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Libby indicted on obstruction of justice, false statment and perjury charge...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beltwaywarzone; cialeak; fitz; fitzgerald; hero; indictment; judymiller; libby; liberalinquisition; liedtofbi; liedtograndjury; marthastewart2; martyr; mattcooper; obstruction; pardon; phishing; plame; politicalpersecution; timrussert
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To: webheart
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641 posted on 10/28/2005 1:47:00 PM PDT by Anti-Republican
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To: Lady Heron

Can't they get a change of venue?


643 posted on 10/28/2005 1:49:56 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: OldFriend

I agree with you on that one. I guess you have to be a Republican to get into serious trouble in Washington and if you are a dem and do anything wrong you know you will walk.


644 posted on 10/28/2005 1:52:59 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: seamole
No, he was surprised that he heard from RUSSERT that Plame worked for the CIA.

You are hereby appointed counsel for the defense.

645 posted on 10/28/2005 1:55:56 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: sheikdetailfeather; ConservativeMan55
There's nothing covert about this beltway couple. This is a mitigating factor.

She wasn't too worried about her identity in Vanity Fair, was she?

646 posted on 10/28/2005 1:57:48 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher (R) for Fla Governor (Fla's Only Pro-Life Candidate))
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To: floriduh voter

The Vanity Fair article was called "Double Exposure". She is essentially exposing herself as Joe Wilson's wife. I'd never admit to that.


647 posted on 10/28/2005 1:58:53 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher (R) for Fla Governor (Fla's Only Pro-Life Candidate))
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To: West Coast Conservative

According to Matthews and the gang (Newsweek and Time), at MSNBC a few nights ago, Fitz has a track record of squeezing the second tier to get them to flip on the big boys.....in this case, Cheney and Bush. They were beside themselves with glee, wondering how soon Cheney would resign in disgrace, possibly facing jailtime...just for discussing the Plame situation in the WH. That's now evidently a crime, merely discussing something. (But of course, the big prize is a Bush impeachment.) They'll connect the dots from Cheney to Bush and that's it. And since they said Bush can't put his pants on in the morning without direction from the VP, well, it's Happy Days Are Here Again!


649 posted on 10/28/2005 2:06:10 PM PDT by hershey
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To: NormsRevenge

All timed to coincide with the announcement of the indictments. Well, what can you do? That's what people like Wolf get paid for.


650 posted on 10/28/2005 2:18:53 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Grampa Dave

"So any charge on the underlying "crime?"
According to Rush, No."

According to Fitzgerald, no. I think that's better authority, with due respect to Rush.




651 posted on 10/28/2005 2:22:02 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: seamole
No, he was surprised that he heard from RUSSERT that Plame worked for the CIA.

Depending on what additional questions were asked surrounding this comment by Libby - You are correct, this is possibly the defense that will be used.

652 posted on 10/28/2005 2:25:43 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: La Enchiladita

And I suggest you read things thoroughly before jumping to irrational and altogether wrong knee jerk conclusions- wrapped in some pseudo-intellectual need to make someone feel less superior than you. You screwed up, newbie. Not me. Sounds like *your* ego is the one that is bruised.


653 posted on 10/28/2005 2:25:46 PM PDT by rintense
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To: popdonnelly

John Hinderaker at Power Line seems to think that the indictment is devastating to Libby, and I think Hinderaker is very smart. So I go into this thinking … hmmm … shame for Libby.

But then I start reading the indictment, and nothing within that indictment makes sense at all. As just one example, at about the same time Libby spoke with Russert (on or around 7/10) and Cooper (on 7/12) he had come to know that Novak was going to do his story. (Libby learned this on 7/10 or 7/11). The indictment also says that Libby had a conversation on 7/12 with WH officials about how to respond to media questions, including from Cooper (and we can infer others). The indictment makes clear that Judith Miller was also up to speed on Plame, though she has written in the NY Times that she was tipped by someone other than Libby. YET THE INDICTMENT SAYS THAT PLAME’S IDENTITY WAS NOT GENERALLY KNOWN AT THE TIME LIBBY DISCLOSED IT TO RUSSERT AND COOPER ON 7/10 AND 7/12.

OK, I suppose that I didn’t know, and my wife didn’t know, and I presume few if any of my coworkers here in the Midwest knew … but come on! Clearly, the facts set forth in the indictment itself make clear that a few folks did indeed know, and that the whole world would know as soon as Novak’s report came out.

The indictment also takes Russert’s word over Libby’s regarding their 7/10 phone call. Libby claims that Russert told him that “all the reporters knew” that Plame worked at the CIA. According to Libby, Russert wanted Libby to confirm this, and it’s not difficult to imagine Russert taking this approach. Russert claims, though, that this part of the conversation never happened, and this is part of the perjury indictment against Libby.

It gets worse. Libby never spoke with Novak, as far as we can tell from the indictment, so the leak came from elsewhere, and it was about to go public irrespective of anything Libby said or did. Miller did nothing with the information Libby gave her. And Cooper was came on board late in the game and (according to the indictment itself) asked Libby to confirm information he had acquired elsewhere.

Honestly, even if I take the information given in the indictment on its face, I truly don’t understand what Libby did wrong. But then I read Hinderaker and I think I must be missing something.


654 posted on 10/28/2005 2:25:58 PM PDT by drellberg
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To: VictoryGal
What baffles me is why Libby couldn't just tell the truth. Plame was NOT covert.

I agree. According to the indictment, Libby found out about Plame's work status from Cheney, not Russert. I don't doubt that Libby was trying to spare Cheney from any kind of embarrassment. Libby probably recognized immediately that the prosecution was a partisan hack job. But Libby's lie was a misguided effort. In the end, it made things worse. Our Sunday school teachers were right: It is always best to tell the truth.

I'm really bummed out. I thought Wilson or Miller would be indicted. Seriously.

Yeah, agreed. But there's an interesting wrinkle to this story. Apparently, prosecutor Fitzgerald allowed Miller et al to come back and modify their stories after he had caught them in obvious lies. So the question remains: Why did Fitzgerald allow Miller et al to slide on a perjury rap, while solely targeting Bush Administration officials? In my opinion, Fitzgerald gave Miller et al a pass in order to snare at least one Administration official. What an utter travesty. Our tax dollars at work. Again.
655 posted on 10/28/2005 2:28:24 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: hershey

But is talking about Valerie Plame in and of itself a crime? I don't think so. She's apparently not a covert agent. If she was, Fitzgerald would have indicted Libby for blowing her cover.


656 posted on 10/28/2005 2:28:29 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: rintense

You're the one talking like a "newbie" ... trying to dictate how people should interpret what you write.

If you're experienced on FR -- as I am -- you know it's much more fun with a thick skin. The discussion didn't come anywhere near my ego and besides I learned something today.

Anyone can learn if they're teachable and not full of themselves.


657 posted on 10/28/2005 2:33:14 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Free Republic = the people's think tank.)
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To: Semi Civil Servant

Your post at #48 is exactly what hubby and I have been discussing for a long time now. Bush had better get tough and right now.

The sissy-pants Republicans had also better get their act together and learn to come out and hit some balls out of the park but if they won't even come out to swing how can this ever happen. My gawd, they all just sit on their hands and think behaving as gentlemen lets them off the hook. It doesn't and they need a whack on the side of the head.

We are sorely under-represented and when they (and Bush) fail to fight openly and with strength for the things we've elected them to do then we are being undermined in addition to them. It makes them look so weak and our country look weak and I despise that.

When is our own party going to stand up, stand tough and strong. I am really sick and tired of it.


658 posted on 10/28/2005 2:35:49 PM PDT by BlueHorseShoe
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To: ajolympian2004

The problem, of course, is that Libby and other Administration officials were more concerned about blunting Wilson's op-ed than they were about the law. They put politics over common sense -- and they're paying the price.


659 posted on 10/28/2005 2:36:58 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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One thing's for sure, this is gonna be lotsa fun when it finally gets to court...
if it ever gets to court.

I can't wait to see all these reporters and associated players "under oath".

660 posted on 10/28/2005 2:59:50 PM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS-)
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