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Fitzgerald will "give direction" on the investigation (UPDATE: Fitzgerald Press Conference at 2pm )

Posted on 10/28/2005 5:00:46 AM PDT by kcvl

Per Fox News...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cialeak; doublestandard; fitzgeraldism; fitzgeraldpressconf; fitzpressconference; getbush; getrove; iraqwar; joewilson; livethreads; mediabias; plamegate; rattricks; scooterlibby; smearcampaign; witchhunt; zogbyism
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To: hipaatwo

Lying to a Grand Jury? That makes sense as a charge, even if the logic is a bit messed up. Does Prejury require lying about a material fact in a crime, or just in an investigation?


2,901 posted on 10/28/2005 12:48:14 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: tobyhill

If he really did introduce her as 'my CIA wife' at functions then I hope they bring in 20 people he said that to.


2,902 posted on 10/28/2005 12:48:31 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: onyx
YES! The gray haired hottie.

LOL!! Barry Richard is EXCELLENT!

2,903 posted on 10/28/2005 12:48:57 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: rollo tomasi

It looks like Libby has been indicted for lying to the press and telling the GJ what he told the press. Is it a crime to lie to reporters?


2,904 posted on 10/28/2005 12:49:14 PM PDT by VA40
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To: lepton

Doesn't perjury require intent, which is why there's also making false statements, so they don't have to prove intent?


2,905 posted on 10/28/2005 12:49:58 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: BigSkyFreeper; sinkspur

Like Sink suggested, I'd hire Barry Richard AND David Boies.


2,906 posted on 10/28/2005 12:50:04 PM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: onyx

Pres up very shortly


2,907 posted on 10/28/2005 12:50:31 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Take the high road. You'll never have to meet a Democrat.)
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To: VA40
It looks like Libby has been indicted for lying to the press and telling the GJ what he told the press. Is it a crime to lie to reporters?

That was my take of it .. which makes no sense .. Does Fitz think Libby should have been truthful to the reporters and outted Plame?

2,908 posted on 10/28/2005 12:50:32 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: PhiKapMom
He is going over the top with five counts but I cannot believe the people on here defending him for (alleged) lying to the FBI and GJ.

I don't get the sense that anybody is defending Libby for lying.

We're just saying that, after everything Fitz was supposed to be investigating, and how serious it all was, these charges are the equivalent of spitting on the sidewalk.

He's bringing charges so he won't be accused of wasting 24 months and $2 million.

2,909 posted on 10/28/2005 12:50:49 PM PDT by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: Mo1

PRESIDENT IS ON NOW!


2,910 posted on 10/28/2005 12:50:54 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: prairiebreeze


On now.

Sounds good so far.

Presumed INNOCENT and entitled to die process and a fair trial.


2,911 posted on 10/28/2005 12:51:33 PM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: onyx

ABC just broke into General Hospital

This may backfire on the democrats yet. You don;t interupt General Hospital during a wedding of main characters.

Fitzgerald will be reviled for a long time.


2,912 posted on 10/28/2005 12:51:50 PM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: prairiebreeze

BUSH: "Pretty soon I'll be naming somebody to the Supreme Court. Thank you very much."


2,913 posted on 10/28/2005 12:52:06 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Mo1


Pretty soon I'll be naming somebody to the Supreme Court.

Wish he would have done that today.


2,914 posted on 10/28/2005 12:52:20 PM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: onyx
I also KNOW that a lawyer who has his own self for a client is a fool.

Bingo!

2,915 posted on 10/28/2005 12:52:37 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII MOM -- Istook for OK Governor in 2006! Allen in 2008!)
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To: sinkspur

Sean Hannity was summarizing Fitzgerald's past....if he can't get a person on the crime, he creates charges on covering up the crime. This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. 30 years for forgetting? God help us if this is how the law is going to go in the future. geesh. everyone should live in fear of their enemies doing this.


2,916 posted on 10/28/2005 12:52:38 PM PDT by applpie
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To: LibWrangler
What we need is a new thread for questions for the trial.

Not exactly question, but let me start with this after reading the indictment. Two impressions that I have:

1. Fitzgerald must not have understood or cared much about the entire background of the case when he includes the following in the preface of the charges.

On May 6, 2003, the New York Times published a column by Nicholas Kristof which disputed the accuracy of the “sixteen words” in the State of the Union address. The column reported that, following a request from the Vice President’s office for an investigation of allegations that Iraq sought to buy uranium from Niger, an unnamed former ambassador was sent on a trip to Niger in 2002 to investigate the allegations. According to the column, the ambassador reported back to the CIA and State Department in early 2002 that the allegations were unequivocally wrong and based on forged documents.

There were no "forgeries" know to anyone in either the CIA or the administration at the time Wilson made his "report". While Wilson claimed that in his June 2003 romance with reporters, it was proven by the Senate and even admitted to by Wilson, that he had no knowledge of any such forgeries at the time he made his trip or when he reported his "findings" afterward. To include that line shows that someone in SP office is obviously not up to speed and I expect Scooter's lawyer will have a convenient starting place for ripping the entire indictment apart over that gaff. Show one item to be false in the beginning, and the jury starts quickly questioning every part of the indictment.

2. The "classified" thing in describing Valerie Wilson employment. The fact that no charges were brought for disclosing the identity of a "covert" operative may indicate that Fitzgerald may have been playing semantics with members of the Grand Jury. Many people have classified jobs, but their place of employment is not at all classified. Did Ms. Wilson go into the office (i.e. CIA Langley HQ) 5 days a week? How did she get there in the morning? Did she drive her own car? Did anyone without proper clearances and "need to know" know where she worked? Was their any requirement in her file that she not divulge her place of employment? Are people working in the same section as her (WMD intel) required to keep their place of employment secret? How was she paid? With a Government check or from a CIA front company account? Was she on a Federal health insurance program?

Again, another spot where a good attorney can unravel the indictment.

And that says nothing about those who would have to testify against Libby in court. All reporters who would be required to tell all they know in open court session. It would be very easy to shake their credibility since they are not by nature credible people. A trail could get very interesting. It’s also curious that there was no mention of Robert Novak having spoken to Libby.

2,917 posted on 10/28/2005 12:53:18 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: onyx

DANG .. the phone rang .. what did he say ?


2,918 posted on 10/28/2005 12:53:21 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Republican Red

LOL! The wedding of main characters! Housewives will be mad at democrats? Or at ABC? Maybe both?


2,919 posted on 10/28/2005 12:53:27 PM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: onyx

Barry Richard
"The gray haired hottie" - onyx

2,920 posted on 10/28/2005 12:53:38 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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