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Conservatives Will Regret the Miers Withdrawal
Washington Post via Real Clear Politics ^ | 10/28/05 | E. J. Dionne Jr.

Posted on 10/28/2005 4:30:00 AM PDT by linkinpunk

Edited on 10/28/2005 6:49:30 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: ctdonath2

You're not wrong.

But the deal is, conservatives trashed the call to trust the President. Instead, they trusted Coulter and others when they said, "Trust ME -- Owen, Luttig, McConnell -- they're all better."

Dan


181 posted on 10/28/2005 7:27:57 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Killborn

"Miers was done in by executive privilege. Had it not been for that, she'd still be the frontrunner."

You and I both know that is NOT true. That was the excuse that was used but she's had a fork in her for days now because she was "done" a week ago. Having said that, I'm glad that she withdrew. The Prez, bless his heart, needs to keep his promise to nominate a Conservative of the ilk of Scalia and Thomas.


182 posted on 10/28/2005 7:28:00 AM PDT by no dems (43 muscles to smile, 17 to frown, two to pull a trigger; I'm lazy and tired of smiling.)
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To: Cold Heat

There is a story today about how she handled the mock hearings. By all accounts, she did terribly and outsiders were not even allowed in for fear of embarassment. Does this not bother you in terms of how she might have done on the floor of the Senate?


183 posted on 10/28/2005 7:30:03 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: linkinpunk

He ignores that that is what Clinton did. The difference was that the Republicans were willing to defer to him even when he picked two liberals for the Court.


184 posted on 10/28/2005 7:30:31 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: BibChr

To get elected, Bush promised us a Scalea or Thomas. He subsequently promised the most qualified individual.

He broke his promises, and nominated a potential Souter.

As a result of these misjudgments, the nomination failed.


185 posted on 10/28/2005 7:30:37 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. " - Mohammed)
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To: linkinpunk
Somehow I don"t think conservatives need advice from E.J. Dionne. But that's just me.

This is fun. Liberals' heads are spinning that conservatives actually won the day on this. They thought they had us on the ropes. They thought we were in disarray and disillusioned. They thought all of our heroes are going down and so will we.

THEY WERE WRONG.

186 posted on 10/28/2005 7:30:38 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (2,4,6,8 - a burka makes me look overweight!)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Excellent post, my friend, excellent.


187 posted on 10/28/2005 7:30:40 AM PDT by no dems (43 muscles to smile, 17 to frown, two to pull a trigger; I'm lazy and tired of smiling.)
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To: chris1
These bots are no different than the RAT voters who still have the Kerry/Edwards voters who still have the stickers on their cars.

Some think there is virtue in rape. What we lost in the Miers debacle is the heart of our Constitution and Republicanism....fairness. Say what you will, but the process was raped.
188 posted on 10/28/2005 7:31:39 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Iowa Granny
How do we plead rightous indignation when the Dems start pounding the next nominee with questions?

We don't need to plead anything to a whining minority and their co-consirators in the MSM. Our conservative elected majority needs to grow a spine, bring the nuclear option, and tell the MINORITY party to shut up and vote - up or down. Let the chips fall where they may - and let those RINO's (McCain, Spectre & company) who would vote against their President's nominee answer to their constituents during the next election.

189 posted on 10/28/2005 7:32:03 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Killborn

Let's keep saying it until we believe it. We all know that was a smoke screen for getting rid of a big mistake made by The Prez. Nevertheless, it worked; thank God.


190 posted on 10/28/2005 7:33:14 AM PDT by no dems (43 muscles to smile, 17 to frown, two to pull a trigger; I'm lazy and tired of smiling.)
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To: Killborn
Good luck to you all in the next SCOTUS war. I am sitting it out.

If you can't hang with the big dogs.......get off of the porch!

191 posted on 10/28/2005 7:33:32 AM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: chris1
There is a story today about how she handled the mock hearings. By all accounts, she did terribly and outsiders were not even allowed in for fear of embarassment.

And what high level source told you this?
192 posted on 10/28/2005 7:34:29 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Hat-Trick

If President Bush nominates a conservative that is as obviously qualified as John Roberts, he will get the same result he got with Roberts. There are numerous experienced Circuit Court judges that were not filibustered and will impress the country in hearings just as much as Judge Roberts did. Alito, Luttig, McConnell, Batchelder, Boggs, Jones....it's a big list. Just pick one.


193 posted on 10/28/2005 7:35:50 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (2,4,6,8 - a burka makes me look overweight!)
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To: Brad Cloven

<< To get elected, Bush promised us a Scalea or Thomas. He subsequently promised the most qualified individual.

He broke his promises, and nominated a potential Souter. >>

No, you're dead-wrong. In fact, as far as you or I know, he broke none of his promises. He didn't promise a nominee YOU (or I, for that matter) would approve of.

Problem is, now we'll never know. Or one problem, at least.

Dan


194 posted on 10/28/2005 7:37:48 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: linkinpunk
The central lie is this one:

But it was neither gauche nor inappropriate for conservatives to demand that Miers clarify her views on a slew of issues, notably Roe v. Wade.

Conservatives didn't demand clarity on Miers' view of Roe; they (or at least most of us) assessed her track record and writings as unimpressive and not particularly conservative.

Lies aside, the undertone of this piece is instructive. Dionne is a good indicator of leftist thought, and he's not happy. Noooot happy. My take is that the Democrats were pretty sure they had another Souter coming down the pike at the hands of their hapless opponents. Suddenly, that rug has been yanked out from under them. What to do?

The first, obvious thing for the leftists to do is spin this as a disaster for Bush and for conservatives. How can the Administration mitigate this disaster? Glad you asked. By nominating a consensus, "centrist" candidate -- Hillary is singing this very song today.

But what if it goes this way:

1) Bush nominates a solid conservative with a deep background and proven track record.

2) Leftists shriek of wrongness and betrayal.

3) RINOs make unhappy noises.

4) Conservatives launch a massive nationwide effort targeting RINO Senators who are up for re-election, explaining to them why supporting the nominee is in their best political interests.

5) Leftists shriek about hatefulness and fascism.

6) After much sound and fury, most RINOs decide not to completely tick off their party, their president AND their base, and the nominee is confirmed with 2 or 3 votes to spare.

7) Leftists emit sounds audible only to dogs.

8) We read E. J. Dionne's post-confirmation article about how this really isn't a victory for the Administration or conservatives, since they didn't even get all the votes of their own party, and smile quietly to ourselves.

Shall we?
195 posted on 10/28/2005 7:38:01 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: BibChr

McCain-Feingold.
Immigration.
Pork-barrel spending.
Unused veto.
Medicare expansion.

Having been burned often enough on key issues, conservatives were hard-pressed to trust Bush on someone who looked rather unlike whom they would choose to place their trust in.

Conservatives will trust - but not blindly.


196 posted on 10/28/2005 7:39:16 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: GarySpFc
Say what you will, but the process was raped.

So, would you include your friend, Senator Brownback, as being among the "rapists" for publicly expressing his doubts and for insisting on access to documents that are covered by executive privilege?

197 posted on 10/28/2005 7:40:17 AM PDT by shempy (EABOF)
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To: cynicom

Since when do Republicans emulate "what democrats Do" ?
Necer I hope.


198 posted on 10/28/2005 7:43:08 AM PDT by Candy_nsuch
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To: The Shrew
Ping to #195.

I left out 9) Conservatives relentlessly punish those RINO Senators who failed to support the nomination.

199 posted on 10/28/2005 7:43:27 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: no dems

Without the executive privilege deal, Miers would still be the frontrunner. Too many people don't understand the character of the President and his people. He would have stuck by her just like he stuck by all those other judges. She would have pressed on until she's either confirmed or rejected in Senate.

Either way, this is a win/win for us. We don't p!$$ of nonhardcore conservatives/republicans and the Left doesn't get a propaganda tool; saying that Bush withdrew because of the "evil right" would be a lie, per usual from the Left.


200 posted on 10/28/2005 7:43:27 AM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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