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Has Terrorism Returned to America’s Heartland?
CBN News ^ | Erick Stakelbeck

Posted on 10/26/2005 12:40:47 PM PDT by LibertyRocks

OKLAHOMA CITY, Oklahoma - Has terrorism returned to the Oklahoma City area? That is what folks in Norman have been asking, ever since a 21-year-old student at the University of Oklahoma killed himself in what some are calling an attempted homicide bombing.

On Saturday, October 1, engineering major Joel Hinrichs detonated a homemade bomb near Memorial Stadium, where 84,000 fans were watching the hometown Sooners take on Kansas State.

That was just a hundred yards from a newly replaced bench -- it was there, just before halftime, that a powerful explosion ripped through the entire area, taking Hinrichs with it.

From the outset, both the FBI and University of Oklahoma President David Boren have insisted that Hinrichs acted alone. They say his death was a random suicide, carried out by a troubled young man, and that Hinrichs had no intention of hurting anyone but himself. But others who have followed the case closely are not so sure.

Mark Tapscott of the Heritage Foundation remarked, “There are about 30,000 suicides in America--unfortunately--every year. And you can go back a decade, and you will not find a single one of those suicides who blew themself up in proximity, close proximity, to 84,000 people at a football game.”

Tapscott and other online bloggers have questioned Hinrichs' true intentions. They point to his Pakistani Muslim roommate and the location of his apartment--just one block from the Norman Mosque.

It is the same mosque that convicted 9/11 plotter Zacarias Moussaoui attended when he lived in Norman. As for Hinrichs, a spokesman for the mosque told us he had never seen him there.

“The first time we've seen his picture is when the news and the media put his pictures in the papers and on TV. Other than that, we've never seen him here,” stated Mohamed Elyazgi, a spokesman for the Norman Mosque.

But in a CBN exclusive, a former neighbor of the mosque, who wishes to remain anonymous, told us she did see Hinrichs there--not once, but several times.

“I did see Joel on several occasions outside of the mosque, actually, in the parking lot of the mosque,” the neighbor said. “It wasn't in the yard, it wasn't behind the fence, it was always in the parking lot when I would see him. And there was one time when I passed him, actually, on the sidewalk. As soon as I saw the picture of Joel Hinrichs on TV, not the clean-shaven one, but the one with the beard, I knew immediately that that was the gentleman I had seen on several occasions.”

Hinrichs' father says his son never would have converted to Islam, and that young Joel was no terrorist. Joel Hinrichs Sr. declared, “My pride is under challenge somewhat, by the fact that he took his life. But in terms of a terrorist, a terrorist is somebody who tries to scare other people. And there was nobody around when Joel did what he did.”

But the FBI has admitted that it still is not sure whether Hinrichs tried to enter Memorial Stadium.

And why did Hinrichs attempt to buy ammonium nitrate fertilizer at a local feed store just days before killing himself? That is the same deadly material Timothy McVeigh used to blow up the Oklahoma City Federal Building in 1995.

“We don't have a lot of people who come in and actually specifically state that they need ammonium nitrate,” Dustin Ellison of Ellison Feed & Seed said. “When it's used in that terminology now, it's kind of...it just catches your attention when somebody asks for that.”

Oklahoma Congressman Tom Cole understands the concerns surrounding Hinrichs' death. But he is confident that the FBI's findings are correct, and that Hinrichs only meant to harm himself.

Rep. Cole stated, “We do have a person that has a long documented history of having a very troubled past. It's a person that had been isolated, who seemed a little bit odd. Who, according to his brother, had frequently been teased and tormented as a young person by fellow students. Sort of classic loner, who didn't fit in.”

Law enforcement authorities found additional explosives during a search of Hinrichs’ apartment. Some news outlets have reported they also found jihadist literature. The FBI denies this claim.

But anyone looking to dig deeper will not have much luck--the Department Of Justice has sealed the search warrant for Hinrichs' apartment.

Although it has grabbed most of the attention, Hinrichs' suicide is not the only troubling incident to take place on America's college campuses these past few weeks.

At UCLA, authorities discovered what they called "an improvised explosive device." Near the University of California's San Diego campus, authorities found a homemade chemical lab in the bathroom of a student's apartment. The student killed himself as police attempted to enter the residence.

At Prairie View A & M in Texas, a student was arrested when authorities found bombmaking materials in his dorm room. He is also charged with trying to buy a handgun with counterfeit money.

And at Georgia Tech, in what officials now say was a prank, a student planted three explosive devices on campus.

As for the University of Oklahoma, it has tightened security at all home games in the wake of Hinrichs' death.

The Oklahoma City Memorial is a daily reminder of the deadly effects of domestic terrorism. And for many here, questions still linger about Hinrichs' death. Was it just a lone suicide? Or was it part of a larger conspiracy to bring terrorism back to America's heartland?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bomb; domesticterrorism; hinrichs; normanbombing; okbomb; ou; oubombing
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To: StillProud2BeFree

you aren't wrong about lonely and disturbed people being susceptible to (and actively recruited by) radical creeds and cults - refer to Hoffer's "True Believer"


21 posted on 10/26/2005 1:07:31 PM PDT by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: LibertyRocks
“There are about 30,000 suicides in America--unfortunately--every year. And you can go back a decade, and you will not find a single one of those suicides who blew themself up in proximity, close proximity, to 84,000 people at a football game.”

Exactly.

22 posted on 10/26/2005 1:07:50 PM PDT by auboy ("Don't get stuck on whiny")
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To: SQUID; All

It doesn't surprise me at all really. It's probably one of the smartest things these terrorists could do, RE: finding an American to do their deeds. They succeded with McVeigh, and now ALMOST succeded with Hinrichs. Why try to replace TRUSTED "soldiers" when you can use "expendable infidels"?

The American public doesn't want to believe it could happen, the FBI doesn't want to admit it happens, and the MSM doesn't want to report on it either! Works out perfectly for those who wish to cause us harm...


23 posted on 10/26/2005 1:08:18 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (COMPREHENSIVE SUMMARY of OU Bombing (Updated 10/26) http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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To: King Prout

Rep. Cole stated, “We do have a person that has a long documented history of having a very troubled past. It's a person that had been isolated, who seemed a little bit odd. Who, according to his brother, had frequently been teased and tormented as a young person by fellow students. Sort of classic loner, who didn't fit in.”

Is that true, or merely the "spin" developed for him after the fact, so that he can be dismissed as a "loner"?


24 posted on 10/26/2005 1:08:52 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: LibertyRocks

By their poor-quality coverups, the goobermint has already demonstrated their failure.

It is just a matter of time before Americans have had enough and take matters into their own hands.

This, IMHO, is why the MSM just meekly follows the goobermint line in matters such as this. They KNOW what will happen if the truth is told.


25 posted on 10/26/2005 1:08:56 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: LibertyRocks
Yes, an M80

At UCLA, authorities discovered what they called "an improvised explosive device."

26 posted on 10/26/2005 1:10:10 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: LibertyRocks

"I'm glad to see that witnesses are coming forward. OU, Boren, Cole and others can try to spin it as much as they want, but the truth will come out - eventually... Hopefully before another incident takes place."

I understand what you're saying, and I, too, and extremely curious about what really happened.

However, it's not as important that the "truth come out" to the public as it is that authorities find out the truth and -- perhaps very quietly -- act on it.

In other words, I don't hold the silence or denials by OU, Boren, Cole, or others against them. Sometimes, it really isn't in the public's best interest to know everything.

At some point, we have to encourage those in authority to do their jobs, and secrecy may be important in accomplishing that goal. Too many cooks spoil the broth, and all that. . .

Common sense dictates that, in these troubled times, all of us remain alert when in crowded venues. Knowing what Joel H truly intended doesn't change that one way or the other.


27 posted on 10/26/2005 1:11:48 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: LibertyRocks

My question would be , has it ever left?


28 posted on 10/26/2005 1:11:58 PM PDT by sport
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To: BurbankKarl

Freepmail.


29 posted on 10/26/2005 1:12:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: LibertyRocks
“My pride is under challenge somewhat, by the fact that he took his life. But in terms of a terrorist, a terrorist is somebody who tries to scare other people. And there was nobody around when Joel did what he did.”

You mean OTHER than the 80,000 in the stadium into which he was denied access?

Feel sorry for the father, but I suspect he is still in denial.

30 posted on 10/26/2005 1:13:22 PM PDT by adamsjas
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To: King Prout

Funny. I'm an oddball clasical loner. I've never fallen for anyones dogma. Especially to a point where I'd blow myself up.


31 posted on 10/26/2005 1:13:45 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: CondorFlight

evidence suggests that he was indeed an unhappily isolated person.

this is not a "loner"

Loners don't need group identities.


32 posted on 10/26/2005 1:15:00 PM PDT by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: LibertyRocks
And I suppose these guys are only interested in lab grade glass vials and stoppers, from biology depts.

Two men arrested under OU campus
The Norman Transcript ^ | October 21, 2005 | Transcript Staff
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1506489/posts?q=1&&page=151


Kill A Commie For Mommie
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33 posted on 10/26/2005 1:15:39 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back" -Homers guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: PurVirgo

"This is an important story that keeps getting buried by the press and MSM... for what reason?"

Not just the MSM, but also the FBI, etc...

Just like the potential connection between the anthrax letters and Islamic terrorists.

Never really hear much about that anymore.

Sometimes you have to wonder how much we really know.




34 posted on 10/26/2005 1:17:03 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Dead Corpse

you and me both.
while we both enjoy socializing with friends, neither of us need or crave a group "identity"
most people do crave this thing. this is neither good nor bad - it just IS.

modern sloppiness of language has muddled the difference between a "loner" and a "lonely herd animal".


35 posted on 10/26/2005 1:17:29 PM PDT by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: LibertyRocks

Rep. Cole stated, “We do have a person that has a long documented history of having a very troubled past. It's a person that had been isolated, who seemed a little bit odd. Who, according to his brother, had frequently been teased and tormented as a young person by fellow students. Sort of classic loner, who didn't fit in.”

What an absurd comment for a reasonably intelligent person to make. Every cult uses that same profile to identify potential new members.


36 posted on 10/26/2005 1:18:29 PM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: LibertyRocks
Has Terrorism Returned to America’s Heartland?

Yes in the form of American Media !

37 posted on 10/26/2005 1:20:18 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: CondorFlight
Here's one congressman whose either lacks enough wattage to be re-elected, or else is too much in cahoots with "the official version" to deserve re-election.

Or is perhaps VERY badly advised by aides in whom he places too much reliance:


38 posted on 10/26/2005 1:21:56 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: archy

hey... you walk among us again? great to see you


39 posted on 10/26/2005 1:23:08 PM PDT by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: BurbankKarl
Actually, in a later article printed in OU Daily a LAPD officer is quoted as saying they were "grenades" and not m80s. Don't really know what to believe at this point.

Article from OU Daily (FR THREAD): OU Takes New Security Precautions

(...)In an off-campus apartment complex in the Westwood section of UCLA on Oct. 7, the Los Angeles Police Department Bomb Squad investigated an “improvised explosive device” found near campus. UCPD did not respond.
“We suspect juveniles had something to do with this,” said Los Angeles Police Department Officer April Harding. “We found two grenades taped together, and the bomb squad was called. One of the grenades was detonated and the other one was bogus.”
No arrests have been made, and the investigation is ongoing, Harding said.


Frankly, I'm even more concerned over the reports of explosions heard 6 days earlier by FReeper 18wheeler's wife just 2 blocks south of the incident at Weyburn Terrace. The police didn't even investigate it although there were witnesses, and it never made the papers. See this Post from 18wheeler.
40 posted on 10/26/2005 1:23:49 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (COMPREHENSIVE SUMMARY of OU Bombing (Updated 10/26) http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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