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Leroi has guts. An interesting and dispassionate discussion of the data.
1 posted on 10/25/2005 8:03:27 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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2 posted on 10/25/2005 8:04:48 PM PDT by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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Killing facts.


3 posted on 10/25/2005 8:05:58 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Free choice is not what it seems)
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BTTT


4 posted on 10/25/2005 8:08:57 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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I'll be a son of a gun. Sea Gypsies.


5 posted on 10/25/2005 8:09:02 PM PDT by Bird Jenkins
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Leroi shall be burned as a heretic by the Harvard, excuse me, the Spanish Inquistion.


6 posted on 10/25/2005 8:12:12 PM PDT by Cenobite (Can't spell unethical without the U.N.)
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The short answer is that "race" as a taxonomic classification predates the linkage between genotype and phenotype that even now is incompletely understood; hence there's a whole lot of intellectual garbage that is going to have to be culled from the field before it again becomes respectable.

It can be done - chemistry was eventually extracted from and divorced from alchemy, astronomy from astrology. But what to keep, and what to discard will be a decision process that will be hampered constantly by vestiges of racism and accusations of its further promotion. I wish the fellow luck.

9 posted on 10/25/2005 8:16:24 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Good post.

The early efforts to analyze crania met with little success as the computing power to crunch the numbers did not yet exist.

In more recent times, the computing power is there, but the study of modern cranial morphology has largely been passed over in favor of non-metric traits and, more recently, DNA, etc.

Still, I think there are still a few good studies left to do on metric cranial morphology.

15 posted on 10/25/2005 8:50:05 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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a minor sidebar:

... for that is the location of the gene encoding Sonic Hedgehog...

ya gotta be kiddin' me

16 posted on 10/25/2005 8:54:47 PM PDT by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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And the moral of the story: science always loses whenever politicians start dictating what its findings should be. This is even worse when introducing "political correctness" into the mix.


19 posted on 10/26/2005 12:21:13 AM PDT by Prime Choice (I can open hearts and minds effortlessly. I have a hacksaw.)
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Race is really more about aesthetics than anything else. You look the way you do because your ancestors found that look attractive. Studying race says more about what made Greatn-grandpa hot-to-trot than it says anything about you.
20 posted on 10/26/2005 12:33:51 AM PDT by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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Leroi has guts.

Indeed ... and brains.

Some Leroi facts:

He's a Brit resident, born in NZ of Dutch parents (his father was a diplomat).

Now holds the position previously held by "Darwin's Bulldog" Thomas Huxley.

His book Mutants awarded The Guardian's Book of the Year reward in 2004 (2003?).

His most important (wink) paper found here

http://armandleroi.com/images/pdf2.gif

... that paper discussed here ...

http://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=16

23 posted on 10/26/2005 7:41:34 AM PDT by aculeus
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31 posted on 10/26/2005 9:59:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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Interesting !!!


32 posted on 10/26/2005 10:35:53 PM PDT by Dustbunny (Main Stream Media -- Making 'Max Headroom' a reality.)
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Why not check the variation in skull shapes within families first?


34 posted on 10/26/2005 11:46:55 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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The reason why they don't study it is that too many biologists of the 19th century, filled with Darwinist zeal, tried to use phenology to arrange human races into an evolutionary model of more and less advanced humans on an evolutionary scale, going so far as to look at Tasmanians as a "missing link". The same thing happened with the study of general intelligence or IQ. Basically, both areas of study were used toward (generally unwarranted) racist and have thus cast a racist shadow over the whole enterprise. People feel that even talking about such issues seriously is to step upon a slippery slope that ends no place good.
44 posted on 10/28/2005 9:18:59 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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