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Wal-Mart calls for minimum wage hike
CNN/Money ^ | 10/25/5

Posted on 10/25/2005 2:29:37 PM PDT by Crackingham

Wal-Mart CEO Lee Scott said he's urging Congress to consider raising the minimum wage so that Wal-Mart customers don't have to struggle paycheck to paycheck. Scott told Wal-Mart directors and executives in a speech Monday that he believes "it is time for Congress to take a look at the minimum wage and other legislation that can help working families."

"The U.S. minimum wage of $5.15 an hour has not been raised in nearly a decade and we believe it is out of date with the times," Scott said. "We can see first-hand at Wal-Mart how many of our customers are struggling to get by. Our customers simply don't have the money to buy basic necessities between pay checks."

Given increasing gas prices and other economic pressures on Wal-Mart customers, Scott went on to say that Wal-Mart shoppers will further be challenged to "support themselves and their families."

"While it is unusual for us to take a public position on a public policy issue of this kind, we simply believe it is time for Congress to take a responsible look at the minimum wage and other legislation that may help working families," he said.

Tracy Sefl, a spokeswoman for Wal-Mart Watch, a group that's been highly critical of the retailer, said Scott's comments on raising minimum wage were "laughable and out of left field."

"I find it disingenuous and laughable that Lee Scott makes these remarks while the company hires lobbyist such as Lee Culpepper who oppose raising the minimum wage," Sefl said.

"We would be the first to applaud real change. But when a comment on raising minimum wage is dashed off and it flies in the face of Wal-Mart's own corporate stance, that's laughable," she added.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; minimumwage; walmart
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To: Crackingham

Well, let us go further and require that places like WalMart provide free medical insurance and the prevailing area's average union wages to all of it employees. Would WalMart agree?
All WalMart wants is more money to be in the hands of its customers, so they can spend more more in WalMart stores. As far as any discussions about treating their own WalMart employees better, well, that is out of bounds.


61 posted on 10/25/2005 3:32:06 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Crackingham

I can no longer have sympathy for Wal-Mart if they conspire to hurt the poorest of the poor like this.

Raising the minimum wage hurts the poorest of the poor as it prices the lowest wage earners out of the market, especially poor black teenagers.

For some graphs:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/minimumwage.htm


63 posted on 10/25/2005 3:34:39 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/secondaryproblemsofsocialism.htm)
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To: Crackingham; cyborg; fortunecookie

Hey, that reminds me, I'm running low on useless chinese crap, gotta make sure to stop by Wal-Mart on the way home. We just got a brand-new Wal-Mart Supercenter: it has about 60% more useless chinese crap than the old Wal-Mart they tore down.


64 posted on 10/25/2005 3:35:39 PM PDT by Petronski (The name "cyborg" to me means complete love and incredible fun. I'm filled with joy.)
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To: tioga

You're funny!!!!

I don't buy useless crap when I shop, regardless of where I shop. I like having money for enjoyable things and so if I don't have a need for something - I just don't buy it.


65 posted on 10/25/2005 3:37:29 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: SGCOS

"What's this?"
"It's useless crap, dear."
"Do we need it?"
"No dear, we don't need it"
"Throw it in the cart"

"Wait, is it useless Chinese crap?"
"Uh, yeah."
"Get another one."


67 posted on 10/25/2005 3:38:33 PM PDT by Petronski (The name "cyborg" to me means complete love and incredible fun. I'm filled with joy.)
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To: Petronski

Could you point me to the WM aisle of useless chinese crap?


68 posted on 10/25/2005 3:39:15 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: TChad
This is a very good way of looking at it. Walmart doesn't really care about the minimum wage. Walmart is forcing their competition to increase their costs, thereby hurting the competition. It may be dirty, but it makes sense.
69 posted on 10/25/2005 3:39:24 PM PDT by JayB
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To: Crackingham

I have no problem with that as long as Wal-Mart will ante up on the supply side for their suppliers whose costs will soar.


70 posted on 10/25/2005 3:40:13 PM PDT by tiki
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To: ThinkDifferent

I completely agree. I thought "just raise your own wages, it's not illegal!"


71 posted on 10/25/2005 3:42:04 PM PDT by starbase (I like the way you think, and I'll be watching you.)
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To: Crackingham

Walmart can be good citizens and lead the way... just like Henry Ford did in the early 20th century.


72 posted on 10/25/2005 3:42:58 PM PDT by podkane
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To: SittinYonder
I don't agree with raising the minimum wage. Wal-Mart's core customer makes around minimum wage. The CEO's belief is that if you raise the minimum wage they will spend more of it at Wal-Mart.

Wal-Mart starting wage for a cart pusher is over $9.00 hour with raises every six months for the first 2.5 years.

An associate at a distribution center starts at over $14 with the same pay progression. A manager starts at over $45,000 plus bonus and stock options.

Wal-Mart doesn't sell anything that other retailers don't already sell. They just sell it cheaper.
73 posted on 10/25/2005 3:43:01 PM PDT by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: PJammers
Wal-Mart doesn't sell anything that other retailers don't already sell. They just sell it cheaper.

And pay their employees better.

74 posted on 10/25/2005 3:48:05 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: tiki

Alot of Wal-Mart suppliers are foreign (i.e. Chinese) and are not subjected to minimum wage regulations. Win, win for Wallyworld.


75 posted on 10/25/2005 3:53:12 PM PDT by NYorkerInHouston
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To: mnehrling
"That's better than my wife.. Honey, if I bought a Louis Vitton purse, it would cost $2,000; this purse is only $50..see if you buy this for me you are saving $1,950... I'm not kidding, this is her logic she uses all the time (sadly, I give in..)"

Even better are those tags on "designer" t-shirts that say $69.99 Sale Price $29.99 SAVE 57%. Women go absolutely bonkers over this scheme. Even when I tell them everything in the store is "on sale" and that $30 is still too damn much for a t-shirt they still don't get it.

76 posted on 10/25/2005 3:54:05 PM PDT by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter (I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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To: Ethrane
But no matter how many employees Walmart has, theres a much larger pool of Walmart shoppers. Raising the minimum wage by government decree makes ALL employers pay their employees more not just Walmart...it maintains their margins, and give Walmart shoppersf more to spend in the store.

Hey, thanks for explaining economics so lucidly. You have obviously given this a lot of thought. Could you help me out with one more thing that has been troubling me, I would like your help in understanding this. Why is the earth flat?

Seriously, please read up on the Bell-shaped curve and how it affects economics, in this case the minumum wage. You remember this from school, right? You can alter this curve but you never get the results you expect, even with the best will in the world. All you do when you raise the minimum wage is chop off the first rung in the ladder of success, making it harder or impossible for those without family or connections or education to get their first job and start working on their resume. Why do you think making it hard for people to get their first job is good public policy?

77 posted on 10/25/2005 3:55:49 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy
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To: NYorkerInHouston
Alot of Wal-Mart suppliers are foreign (i.e. Chinese) and are not subjected to minimum wage regulations.

They are the exact same suppliers as all other retail chains - and the true sin is that the majority of them USED to be US manufacturers.

79 posted on 10/25/2005 3:58:15 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: SittinYonder
Here's the useless [Walmart] crap I had in mind:

And this stuff is any better?

Personal Photobooth from Neiman-Marcus: $20,000.00

Manolo Blahnik Alligator Slide from Neiman-Marcus: $1,150.00

"NASCAR Pinball" from The Sharper Image: $4995.00

Walmart doesn't have a exclusive market for "useless crap" it's just that theirs is cheaper than elsewhere.

80 posted on 10/25/2005 3:58:48 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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