Careful now. Anymore talk like that and someone will be accusing you of turning them into a newt.
Posted on 10/23/2005 9:19:48 AM PDT by null and void
Bishop James Ussher Sets the Date for Creation: October 23, 4004 BC
When Clarence Darrow prepared his famous examination of William Jennings Bryan in the Scopes trial, he chose to focus primarily on a chronology of Biblical events prepared by a seventeenth-century Irish bishop, James Ussher. American fundamentalists in 1925 found—and generally accepted as accurate—Ussher’s careful calculation of dates, going all the way back to Creation, in the margins of their family Bibles. (In fact, until the 1970s, the Bibles placed in nearly every hotel room by the Gideon Society carried his chronology.) The King James Version of the Bible introduced into evidence by the prosecution in Dayton contained Ussher’s famous chronology, and Bryan more than once would be forced to resort to the bishop’s dates as he tried to respond to Darrow’s questions.
The chronology first appeared in The Annals of the Old Testament, a monumental work first published in London in the summer of 1650. In 1654, Ussher added a part two which took his history through Rome’s destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. The project, which produced 2,000 pages in Latin, occupied twenty years of Ussher’s life.
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The date forever tied to Bishop Ussher appears in the first paragraph of the first page of The Annals. Ussher wrote: “In the beginning, God created heaven and earth, which beginning of time, according to this chronology, occurred at the beginning of the night which preceded the 23rd of October in the year 710 of the Julian period.” In the right margin of the page, Ussher computes the date in “Christian” time as 4004 B.C.
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Careful now. Anymore talk like that and someone will be accusing you of turning them into a newt.
The great ancient libraries were burnt. However, not all records are in writing. There are the ruined remains of ancient observatories by the hundreds all over the world. If we can read those we can find astronomical records that point to earlier times. Signs come in more forms than our languages. Hunters read signs in the forest that are not words, but are clear signs. Learn how to read the signs in the sky; the Bible says they are put there for that purpose.
Predynastic Egypt (~5500 BC) and Sumer (~4500 BC) leap to mind. Also, this is kind of interesting: ~5000 year old civilzation in Peru
In Egypt, Mesopotamia and Harappa, writing systems go back nearly 6,000 years, with the earliest often on clay tablets rather than paper or other soft materials.
But the rock paintings and carvings go back much farther, some think as early as about 40,000 years ago. Some have suggested that American Indian carvings represent a written language, but that idea has not caught on. Certainly they expressed ideas to the people that created them.
Much of the dating is by Carbon-14, but there are several other methods in use as well.
My point in all of this is to try to remind people that science suggests ages far older than about 6,000 years. There is a vast and consistent body of knowledge pointing in that direction. I personally have worked on archaeological sites far older than 6,000 years.
To post # 39
No, stay home Tuesday (sundown Monday to sundown Tuesday) and do no servile labor and pray to Our Loving Creator to open your heart to the real truth of this world and the world that will come. Study The first few books of the Scriptre. Go to eliyah.com for a copy that has more truth than king jimmy, the child predator"s, version ever had.
Thanks for the clarification. This is why I love FR it's like getting a Post Doc in everything!
I don't have a problem with the "G-d created a mature universe" theory, but it doesn't make sense to me that the mature universe would have signs of ancient civilizations far older than the 5766 years allowable by biblical chronology. And if all of civilization was wiped out by the flood, how did the cave paintings get there? (People who believe in a 5766 year old universe - can you explain?)
"Specifically, present analyses of above WMAP all-sky image indicate that the universe is 13.7 billion years old (accurate to 1 percent)..."
(See http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050925.html)
...and Ussher never heard of "Relativity" -- as it applies to time -- as viewed from different reference frames...
I can't answer that, I'm not in the ~6000 year old universe camp, and someone seems to have turned me into a newt.
I would just like to know how things are more than 6,000 light years away. As Ralph Wiggums would say, "that is umpossible" when ya try to merge it with reality.
Those who think that an old earth negates God seem to me to have a very shaky theological bent. But all the power to them.
I remember. That was a long day.
Interesting discussion (far more interesting than 'evolution', IMHO) in progress here...
Ummm, the light was created in transit, with the appropriate red shift???
Obviously, 5,999 light years away, God set up a big projection screen with a bunch of stars on it.
Between this and planting dinosaur bones, God is one heck of a merry prankster.
Ain't he though?
BTW, shouldn't the seventh millenium be a millenium of rest, in keeping with Biblical tradition? I'm going back to bed.
How long is God's work day?
How long is a Milky Way day?
According to the Creator Deity Union rules: 8 hours (x1.5 for third shift).
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