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Everyone should own a firearm
OU Daily ^ | October 20, 2005 | Matt Hamilton

Posted on 10/21/2005 3:21:50 PM PDT by Ain Soph Aur

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To: 68skylark

Can you list some?


41 posted on 10/21/2005 4:40:40 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Ain Soph Aur
“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

I completely agree with the author. It is important that language has precise meaning if thoughts and ideas are to be passed down through generations. I believe the founders meant to convey, "Because a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." They might have been careless in their language, but I don't see how any objective person could interpret it any other way.

42 posted on 10/21/2005 4:40:40 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: SauronOfMordor; El Gato
I am commenting on this guys's thought pattern. Maybe he can't tell the difference between a God given right and an obligation.

BTW, cite all the references you want. The BOR was quoted as being among rights endowed by the Creator. The rights were enumerated as an amendment to the Constitution. There may have been subsequent or prior regulations requiring men to possess arms and even certain kinds of arms. The 2A simply addresses the inherent right.

43 posted on 10/21/2005 4:44:23 PM PDT by groanup (shred for Ian)
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To: From many - one.

Just as quiet as September 10,2001.


44 posted on 10/21/2005 4:45:15 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: From many - one.
Can you list some?

If some people are simply uncomfortable around firearms, it's fine with me if they choose not to own one. It's even more fine if they have a real phobia about firearms, like some people do (unfortunately).

There are dozens of other factors, also, that make this a personal decision. (What if there's someone in the house who seems to be not quite fully mentally stable? In that case, if a parent or guardian chooses not to have a gun in the house, that's fine with me. I know a family in this exact situation, and I'm kinda glad they don't want a gun in their house, frankly -- I'd probably do the same thing in their situation.)

The one idea that makes this country great is freedom; it's liberty. Anything that chips away at personal freedoms is not something we should be happy about. Even if we think people aren't using their freedoms in exactly the right way, it should still be their choice.

45 posted on 10/21/2005 4:50:20 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Ain Soph Aur

I recommend a AR-10 for everyone. 7.62 (.380) will do the job.


46 posted on 10/21/2005 4:50:24 PM PDT by vigilence
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To: Ain Soph Aur
Everyone should own a firearm

One is not nearly enough but I guess it's a start. Everyone should own a bunch of guns. As far as 16 - 50. Get serious. Have to make it 16 - death.

47 posted on 10/21/2005 4:51:53 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: From many - one.; Gardener
Well, I was teasing mostly - what I wrote is taken pretty much word-for-word from an anti-gun statement with a couple of critical substitutions. I do, however, think that the unarmed enjoy a free ride from the armed.

A firearm is simply too dangerous a thing to force on anyone. Especially most of the liberals I know.

Except, of course for our friend gardener. You WILL own a gun und you WILL LIKE IT!!!

48 posted on 10/21/2005 4:52:09 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Gardener
The real purpose of my proposal is to institute a 'rite of citizenship', and to make our oath of citizenship a mandatory part of exercising our right to vote.

Forget the gun part, -- would you support the rest of the concept?
49 posted on 10/21/2005 4:53:05 PM PDT by faireturn
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To: 68skylark

Wow. One sane person, at least.

I would love to own several guns, but my son would be likely to cause some kind of incident, as he is seriously impulsive and Houdini, to boot. I won't take the chance that he might endanger my other children. A large dog will have to suffice for a few more years until he is out of the house.


50 posted on 10/21/2005 4:53:53 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: 68skylark
It's even more fine if they have a real phobia about firearms

I have some neighbors like that but I am certain, if there is any trouble, I'm the first they come running to.

51 posted on 10/21/2005 4:54:46 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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I have some neighbors like that but I am certain, if there is any trouble, I'm the first they come running to.

Yeah, I'm sure you're right. That's a price that some Americans have always paid to help others. If it happens, take it as an honor.

52 posted on 10/21/2005 4:57:05 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Billthedrill

Pbbbbbhhhhhhttttt!!


53 posted on 10/21/2005 5:02:38 PM PDT by Gardener
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To: Ain Soph Aur
I would assume that a "WELL-REGULATED" militia is one that is well lead and repectfull of the law. Such has not always been the case - to wit: "One of the early events of historical significance to this area was the Massacre at Hauns Mill. Jacob Hauns built the mill on Shoal Creek about ten miles south of Breckenridge in 1836.

At the time of the attack there was a mill, black smith shop, and perhaps half a dozen houses. About twenty families were living there, either in cabins, tents or wagons, some having recently arrived being in transit to Far West, a large Mormon town about thirty miles further to the west. Governor Boggs had given the order for all Mormons to be driven from the state.

After having camped about three miles to the north of Breckenridge, the Livingston County Militia led by Col. Wm. O Jennings attacked the Mormons at Hauns Mill on the afternoon of October 30, 1838. The Mormons having thought that they had reached a truce with the local militia were taken completely by surprise. In the ensuing attack all able-bodied men were either killed or driven off, as were the women and children.

Seventeen men and boys were killed and twelve were wounded. The following morning the survivors returned and placed the dead in a partially finished well located near the mill and then departed for Far West."

And then Wounded Knee "The problem was exacerbated by the presence of military troops on the reservation for the first time in ten years (including Custer’s old unit, the 7th Cavalry, which was predictably spoiling for a fight), and the irresponsible raiding onto the reservation by the civilian "Home Guard", hastily organized on the orders of Governor Mellette.

Led by another hot-head, M.H. Day of Rapid City, the militia provoked several skirmishes, adding fuel to the fire.

Kings River, California; Ludlow, Colorado; and so on. People by themselves may be perfectly reasonable, but get group of hotheads together, add rumors or bad blood, thingas can go from bad to worse. Adding automatic weapons is just not the thing to cure the underlying problems.

If you think I am out of line, flame away - just remember to go back and look at the most recent footage from Ohio..... and ask yourself, what would have happend if these gangbangers brought the family AK to the picnic?

out here.

54 posted on 10/21/2005 5:05:56 PM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
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To: faireturn

I have no problem with the things in your oath. I'm not sure how I feel about taking a fealty oath though. I am completely loyal to this country but having to take a loyalty oath just doesn't feel right to me for some reason. I think I would have to sit down and think about it and sort out how I feel about it before I can say I'd take it.


55 posted on 10/21/2005 5:06:36 PM PDT by Gardener
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To: 68skylark

No problem. Always happy to help.


56 posted on 10/21/2005 5:06:45 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: 68skylark

Thank you, good post.


57 posted on 10/21/2005 5:08:55 PM PDT by Gardener
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To: Gardener

Since you choose not to protect yourself and your family, why should anyone else volunteer for the task?


58 posted on 10/21/2005 5:10:32 PM PDT by jonascord (What is better than the wind at 6 O'clock on the 600 yard line?)
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To: Gardener

Egad, you even spelled that right... ;-)


59 posted on 10/21/2005 5:12:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: jonascord

Who have I asked to volunteer to protect me or my family?


60 posted on 10/21/2005 5:13:48 PM PDT by Gardener
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