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Everyone should own a firearm
OU Daily ^ | October 20, 2005 | Matt Hamilton

Posted on 10/21/2005 3:21:50 PM PDT by Ain Soph Aur

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To: 68skylark

Like those who are routinely depressed or suicidal. They go from being protection by the bed, to a 'promise to end the pain'.

Geez, there are a few relatives who I don't think should use pop-gun much less something that could hurt someone.

Arm those who are healthy and can shoot straight. And be very grateful that the rest of us aren't armed! ;)


81 posted on 10/21/2005 6:59:55 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: faireturn
It seems the members of Congress and the federal gov't place little value on their own oaths of office based on a half century of viewing them weaken the Constitution, U.S. economy and defense.

Similar to the requirements that millions of modestly paid workers must repeatedly prove drug-free while Congressmen are apparently exempt from such mundane rules.

82 posted on 10/21/2005 7:00:58 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: ncountylee

Are we to force everyone to publish a newspaper or otherwise make public their opinion on every issue? What happened to privacy and mind your own business? If someone doesn't want to have a gun(newspaper)(car)(eat meat)(vote)(----) as long as it doesn't involve their actual attack on another person then it is their right. They do not have a right to demand I conform to their way.


83 posted on 10/21/2005 7:07:21 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: hoosierham

The warning sign is to protect the children.


84 posted on 10/21/2005 7:11:26 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Amish with an attitude
You ought to spring for a .50 barrel for your Eagle and see how things come alive.

That's a very good idea. I think that I can get a six-inch component package to handle that.

Thank you, sir.


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85 posted on 10/21/2005 7:17:38 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: Osage Orange
If you know exactly how many firearms you have....you don't have enough.

Yeah, it should take at least an hour to try and estimate. {;o)

86 posted on 10/21/2005 7:18:28 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: Amish with an attitude
Check out the Desert Eagle in "Shattermelons".

It's okay. I know most of the FR crowd uses a Windows OS.


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87 posted on 10/21/2005 7:26:35 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: ncountylee

Well, as long as it's for the children it must be good.


88 posted on 10/21/2005 7:27:40 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: GSlob

I understood over the years that each Swiss "soldier" had 200 rounds in his possession. Accounting for them was strict - as with any thing Swiss


89 posted on 10/21/2005 7:30:59 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Gardener
Okay, you don't have to own one. Why is it unreasonable to require you to pay a fee for protecting you and your family?

"What's the difference between guns laws banning guns and gun laws requiring ownership"

If you don't know the difference between "banning" and "requiring" then I can't help you.

Why are you so against having a firearm? Do you like being defenseless? Or do you have some other form of defense for you and your family that you would like to share with us? Bodyguards maybe. Vicious dogs? Security systems (what a joke). I'm just ask'n. Do you live in a gated community? What are you doing to protect yourself? Hey, I'm just ask'n. 'K?
90 posted on 10/21/2005 7:33:03 PM PDT by saleman
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To: ncountylee

I used to spend lots of time at the house of a neighbor with lots of children and even more guns and ammunition. All were easily accesible and all the kids knew better than to touch any of the guns without permission.Those were for huntin' squirrels,'coons, and not for play. It's the kids that were never exposed to guns that are most dangerous due to ignorance.


91 posted on 10/21/2005 7:34:30 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: hoosierham
hoosierham wrote: Oaths of allegiance should not be compulsory.
A compulsory oath is worthless except in the view of tyrants,and I find it repugnant

Hmmm, -- you find our naturalization oath repugnant.

I repeat, -- I think it should be mandatory for all citizens, prior to them first exercising their right to vote.
No oath, no vote.

Again,these people had a choice to come here or not;a person born here has no such choice.

They would have a choice. Swear the oath above, or no vote. They would retain all other rights of citizenship.

But a person born here is assumed to be loyal because of his birth,neither has a person born here a natural allegiance to any foriegn entity which would need to be foresworn. Additionally,the person swearing the oath to the U.S. and renouncing his earlier oath may be considered a traitor by his former nation. The Bible tells us not to swear oaths because we have not the power to so much as change the color of one hair on our own head. Refusal to swear your oaths does not automatically mean the person is intending to do you harm.
I notice you failed to address the impressment question,probably because to do so conflicts with your idea of forced service.

I gave no proposal for "forced service". Try reading my first posts here on the issue.

Is it that forced service for the causes you support is a good thing but forced service for causes you oppose is a bad thing?

Dream on that I've proposed "forced service". I fully support the principle of a volunteer military.

It seems the members of Congress and the federal gov't place little value on their own oaths of office based on a half century of viewing them weaken the Constitution, U.S. economy and defense.
Similar to the requirements that millions of modestly paid workers must repeatedly prove drug-free while Congressmen are apparently exempt from such mundane rules.

Do you have some point to make in the last two comments?

92 posted on 10/21/2005 7:34:57 PM PDT by faireturn
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To: mad_as_he$$

190 in the box,8 in the magazine,2 in the home invader.All bullets accounted for ,sir.


93 posted on 10/21/2005 7:36:20 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: ASOC
No flame.

As far as Wounded Knee goes it is my opinion that the whole damn US Army was spoiling for a fight. They had had enough after 50 years of Indian Wars.

Massacres over the years were mostly caused by turf wars or religious wars. My home, the State of Nevada has the slogan "Battle Born" I am proud of that. This country was built be white men with guns. Just a fact no opinion.

If there were no guns then it would have been done with spears and knives - plain and simple. Roman style, manifest destiny is a powerful thing.

94 posted on 10/21/2005 7:43:55 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Melas
I have been involved in three "peacetime" shootings. I agree completely with you. If you are not ready to put "Two in the chest and one in the head, shoot that F'er till he''s dead". Then don't get or carry a gun for SELF defense! It is really embarrassing to get shot with your own gun.
95 posted on 10/21/2005 7:47:34 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: rdb3

A Firearm? My thoughts too.
Not giving up a dozen of my guns just so I can own A Firearm.


96 posted on 10/21/2005 7:49:03 PM PDT by jerry639
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To: faireturn
I pick up the forced service because of your example of draftees swearing of oaths.

The foreign born do have a previous allegiance to renounce,the native born should have none to renounce.

Ultimately,I believe people who truly believe in a cause have no need to swear oaths except to calm the fears of those of weak or suspicious minds. It is far more important that the persons actions help the cause.

IF the oaths really meant anything to Congressmen and the rest then those who work so diligently to deny our Constitutional rights would find themselves censured and their bills voted down in short order. And more Congressional scandals would result in censures and declarations of vacancy.Congressmen may be under the influence of various drugs especially alcohol while passing laws that affect everyone yet they have no requirement to prove themselves "clean" as do ordinary citizens who can scarcely affect anything.

It is not the oath,but the character ,that is important. I am unconvinced the mere act of swearing oaths improves character.

97 posted on 10/21/2005 7:52:09 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: hoosierham

Hey do I know you? You were in my house!


98 posted on 10/21/2005 7:52:12 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: hoosierham

lol


99 posted on 10/21/2005 7:52:55 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: GSlob
A former Swiss co-worker of mine once mentioned to me that while they have assault rifles in almost every house, the ammo for these is much tighter controlled, and far from widespread.

Each is issued with an assault rifle and a box of ammunition.

That box is sealed, and it is against the law ro open it.

The box is to be returned unopened at the end of a year, and a fresh box issued. The returned box becomes "military-surplus" and available for purchase.

It's a military readiness thing.

100 posted on 10/21/2005 7:55:07 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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