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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Our confidence in the theory is excellent, but it can never be 100%.

So are you saying that you are not 100% certain that a space ship can orbit the earth?

116 posted on 10/18/2005 9:37:01 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: kjam22
So are you saying that you are not 100% certain that a space ship can orbit the earth?

Confidence in the repeatability of observed behavior != theory explaining that observed behavior.

Being 99.99999999999999% certain that dropping a rock will result in the rock falling does nothing to explain how gravity causes the rock to fall in the first place.

125 posted on 10/18/2005 9:52:21 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: kjam22; RogueIsland
I wrote:

"There was the Theory of Orbital Mechanics, for which our being able to orbit a ship around the Earth is a great boost but it doesn't prove the Theory of Orbital Mechanics. Our confidence in the theory is excellent, but it can never be 100%."

You replied:

"So are you saying that you are not 100% certain that a space ship can orbit the earth?"

Are you illiterate? I was talking about the Theory of Orbital Mechanics, a subset of gravitational theory, and you rewrite it as the *theory a ship can orbit the Earth*. There IS NO *Theory a space ship can orbit the Earth* in science. There never was.

Then you said,"

"I think if you just ask 1000 americans on the street if it is a proven fact that a spaceship can orbit the earth... well I think 1000 of them would say "duh yeah... we've done that". But maybe they're all wrong? "

I already said that a ship can orbit the Earth, but that THAT doesn't PROVE the current Theory of Orbital Mechanics, though it does give it a boost. You are willfully lying about what I have said.

Then you lie about what RogueIsland said and say he said that the fact of gravity is in dispute,

"I'm going to spend my lunch hour dropping rocks now that I know there's a chance that one might not fall when I let go."

He specifically said that the fact of gravity is different then HOW gravity works (which is the theory of gravity). People knew things fell when you dropped them for milenia; they lacked a theory of how it happened. We know that a ship can orbit the Earth; we are not perfectly sure HOW that happens. In fact, add more than 3 objects and we have a hard time working the math for the orbits.

Typical creationist dishonesty.
134 posted on 10/18/2005 10:22:04 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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