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To: George W. Bush
"I think it's plain enough you want another Souter or O'Connor. Or at least you wouldn't mind it. That's not surprising as many of the Miers supporters here are exactly the same but they're more careful about tipping their hands."

Are you on crack or something? That’s what pisses me off so much about guys like you. You make that kind of accusation and you don’t even have a clue who you’re talking to or what they’re really like. I doubt there’s anyone here as politically and ideologically conservative as I am. Go read all my posts before the Miers nomination and then recognize how stupid your statement was. I was hoping and praying for Luddig or Owens for this seat. But that’s not who W. nominated. What I’ve said quite clearly and people like you have either ignored or haven’t understood, is that I am waiting to have some EVIDENCE, PROOF, FACTS, before I come out slamming someone like Miers based one GUESSWORK, SUPPOSITION, and SECOND HAND UNINFORMED COMMENTS about Miers, spewed by people who don’t know her and have never worked with her.

If being a "real Republican" as you seem to suggest, means tearing into someone who has yet speak for themselves, because of fears and guesses on what may or may not happen, then the Republican party has become a bastardized version of it’s former great self. The kind of insulting arrogant presumptive statement you made to me is the kind of stupidity I am only used to hearing from whacked out liberals. You don’t know me. You don’t have a CLUE how conservative I am, and what all I’ve done actively for the Republican party, but you presume to suggest I’m a closet liberal. Go find something I’ve said here that would suggest that and post it here for all to see. If you can’t do that, then shut up and grow up. I’m no lib, and I’m no moderate. I’ve been vocal here and my whole life about despising people like that for either their total lack of morals and values, or no spine or courage to admit what they really believe in. You don’t know what you’re talking about. All I’ve said this whole time is to not shoot from the hip and give in to irrational emotional tantrums because of who Miers isn't.

That accomplishes nothing and shows a level of immaturity and impulse control problems. THAT is what I have seen on the part of most who are anti-Miers. I am not Pro or Anti miers, I just want to wait and see what she has to say for herself before I cut her off at the knees. The fact that to someone like you, someone who is waiting to have some facts before taking action, is Pro-Miers too, really shows you are giving in to unchecked emotional rage, and really need to back off. I am as conservative as anyone on here, and just because I am neutral on Miers, suggesting that frothing anti-Miers fanatics be patient and pray and take a deep breath, doesn’t make me less conservative. The one mistake I made was in thinking that most all on Free Republic were rational adults who wouldn’t shoot first and ask questions later. You all need to chill out, grow up, and quit trying to make people like me look like moderates or liberals, when the reality is we who are demanding patience until the hearings are 100% conservatives who agree with all of the real Christian conservative movement and have lived as such for over 20 years.

What I’ve seen from the anti-Miers crowd here is a bunch of people who are so upset that Miers isn’t who they wanted to be nominated, they’re willing to tear into ANYONE who doesn’t feel exactly the same, and isn’t willing to torch her and Bush to the ground until they hear what she has to say at the hearings, to see if that uncontrolled rage at her is justified. There is no more proof that Miers will be a souter than there is that she will be a Scalia. And your insulting inference that I want another souter when you don’t even know me shows a total lack of maturity and respect for others. Grow up. And if you’re a real conservative, act like it and quit insulting the character and beliefs of someone you don’t even know.

If Miers shows herself to be a souterite or a spinless coward like o’conner, I’ll be right there ripping Miers and making calls and writing letters. Until then, there is no clear evidence she is as liberal as they are. I’ve volunteered for conservative Republican campaigns, been a delegate at the Texas Republican convention, worked with pro-life organizations, worked with the Christian Coalition, went to Louisiana last year to volunteer for Charles Boustanee to help become the first Republican Congressman for that district in decades, and been a registered Republican since I was 18 and have only ever voted for Republicans all the years since then. What the hell have YOU done for the conservative Republican cause that gives you the right to tell me I’m some moderate or liberal!? You presume things that you do not know. Now be a man and apologize to me for your childish statements in your 374 post, and treat other conservatives with the same respect that you would demand for yourself. Just because they don’t agree with your explosive emotional tirades against Miers without facts or evidence to back them up. If you had any idea how conservative I am politically, religiously, ideologically, or economically, or had heard arguments I’ve had over the years with liberals, who’ve called me a flaming homophobic Christian radical nazi because I voice my conservative beliefs and am not ashamed about doing it, you’d know what a fool you are for accusing me of that. If the Republican party is filled with people who now turn on other conservatives because they demand patience and facts before blowing someone up, then the Republican party really needs to improve it’s quality control before allowing someone to register as such.

I DO demand an unflinching conservative agenda and have made that clear in the body of my posts before the Miers post, and for many years before Free Republic was even a concept. Take your sarcasm and shove it. You’re not debating an issue, you’re being an insulting name calling child who can’t voice your position against Miers, without personally tearing down those who don’t share it, and that’s not acceptable.

377 posted on 10/19/2005 11:59:32 AM PDT by Allen H (An informed person, is a conservative person. Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Bush,& the USA!)
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To: Allen H
Are you on crack or something?

Given how affective your response is, I think I'm dead on target.

You don’t have a CLUE how conservative I am, and what all I’ve done actively for the Republican party, but you presume to suggest I’m a closet liberal. Go find something I’ve said here that would suggest that and post it here for all to see. If you can’t do that, then shut up and grow up.

I think your previous post makes it clear enough that you don't really consider yourself to be a part of the conservative grassroots:

"I just wish that conservatives would wait until there is something concrete to fire at Miers about."
You refer to conservatives as a group you have nothing in common with and with whom you are not associated. And I suspect that is true. What I can't figure out is why you want to hide it so badly. There are, after all, plenty of Bushbots and party-over-principle folks here at FR who will welcome you with open arms. It's not as though you'll get booted for flying under your true colors.

As for the much ballyhooed notion of waiting until Miers has testified, that's a lot like waiting to find out the result of the Senate confirmation vote. By that time, it's likely to be too late, particularly given how many GOP senators voted to confirm the nomination of the chief counsel of the ACLU, Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg, to the Court during the Clinton regime. And a mistake with Miers may not be corrected for years or decades to come. Or perhaps ever. Bush may get no more nominees. And if a Dim gets the WH in '08 and holds it for two terms, it would be during the 2016-2020 term when we might next get a chance.

Your obvious complacence to such a dangerous outcome, one that can nullify everything conservatives have fought for since the Reagan era (and even before) indicates to me that you really don't care much whether Miers is the justice we need, no matter the consequences to an agenda that conservatives have worked for decades to enact.

I don't know how dull-witted a person can possibly be to see that this is, as it was always said to be, the single test of whether it was worth installing a second Bush administration. If we don't get strict constructionist justices on the Court, then having elected Lyndon Johnson to his third and fourth terms as president will have been an exercise in futility for conservatives in the Republican party.
380 posted on 10/19/2005 3:00:56 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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