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To: Allen H
Fire away. How will you feel in a few months if her findings are right in line with Scalia and Thomas? Will you be as vocal in your admission that you were wrong as everyone is being with their criticism? I’m waiting to actually hear what she has to say before I blast or praise her.

If we end up with another Souter, I'm not going to be much interested in who admits what. You act as though the battle for the Court means little more.

If Miers turns out to be a suiterite liberal, W. is still doing no worse than Reagan did with Justices. Reagan got burned with o’conner and kennedy. They’ve been moderates at best. I just wish that conservatives would wait until there is something concrete to fire at Miers about.

I think it's plain enough you want another Souter or O'Connor. Or at least you wouldn't mind it. That's not surprising as many of the Miers supporters here are exactly the same but they're more careful about tipping their hands.

Given yesterday's announcement by Cherthoff that we will expel all illegals within one year and that conservative insiders have tied this move directly to the furor from the conservative base over Miers and the heat that has been applied to Congress over spending, I think those who oppose the conservative agenda of a smaller and less intrusive government, a strict Court and proper borders may have a chance to make advances.

Here at FR, those who have suffered the most abuse are those who have advanced exactly these positions. And we will drag the rest of you kicking and screaming along with us. You'd better learn to like it. We're the same people that sunk good ol' Brownie too. As I recall, you all didn't like that either but we conservatives did make it happen.

And when we do, will you admit your error? That's rhetorical. I'm not really in this thing to wring apologies out of people, some who are liberal Republicans, over who was right.

I want to see change. Too bad the rest of you are so eager to defeat the conservative agenda but that's your business. However, the GOP knows you'll vote for them if they tell you to shove it and you'll eagerly thank them and vote for them again.

Thanks again for all your help in demanding an unflinching conservative agenda.</sarcasm>
374 posted on 10/19/2005 11:00:30 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
"I think it's plain enough you want another Souter or O'Connor. Or at least you wouldn't mind it. That's not surprising as many of the Miers supporters here are exactly the same but they're more careful about tipping their hands."

Are you on crack or something? That’s what pisses me off so much about guys like you. You make that kind of accusation and you don’t even have a clue who you’re talking to or what they’re really like. I doubt there’s anyone here as politically and ideologically conservative as I am. Go read all my posts before the Miers nomination and then recognize how stupid your statement was. I was hoping and praying for Luddig or Owens for this seat. But that’s not who W. nominated. What I’ve said quite clearly and people like you have either ignored or haven’t understood, is that I am waiting to have some EVIDENCE, PROOF, FACTS, before I come out slamming someone like Miers based one GUESSWORK, SUPPOSITION, and SECOND HAND UNINFORMED COMMENTS about Miers, spewed by people who don’t know her and have never worked with her.

If being a "real Republican" as you seem to suggest, means tearing into someone who has yet speak for themselves, because of fears and guesses on what may or may not happen, then the Republican party has become a bastardized version of it’s former great self. The kind of insulting arrogant presumptive statement you made to me is the kind of stupidity I am only used to hearing from whacked out liberals. You don’t know me. You don’t have a CLUE how conservative I am, and what all I’ve done actively for the Republican party, but you presume to suggest I’m a closet liberal. Go find something I’ve said here that would suggest that and post it here for all to see. If you can’t do that, then shut up and grow up. I’m no lib, and I’m no moderate. I’ve been vocal here and my whole life about despising people like that for either their total lack of morals and values, or no spine or courage to admit what they really believe in. You don’t know what you’re talking about. All I’ve said this whole time is to not shoot from the hip and give in to irrational emotional tantrums because of who Miers isn't.

That accomplishes nothing and shows a level of immaturity and impulse control problems. THAT is what I have seen on the part of most who are anti-Miers. I am not Pro or Anti miers, I just want to wait and see what she has to say for herself before I cut her off at the knees. The fact that to someone like you, someone who is waiting to have some facts before taking action, is Pro-Miers too, really shows you are giving in to unchecked emotional rage, and really need to back off. I am as conservative as anyone on here, and just because I am neutral on Miers, suggesting that frothing anti-Miers fanatics be patient and pray and take a deep breath, doesn’t make me less conservative. The one mistake I made was in thinking that most all on Free Republic were rational adults who wouldn’t shoot first and ask questions later. You all need to chill out, grow up, and quit trying to make people like me look like moderates or liberals, when the reality is we who are demanding patience until the hearings are 100% conservatives who agree with all of the real Christian conservative movement and have lived as such for over 20 years.

What I’ve seen from the anti-Miers crowd here is a bunch of people who are so upset that Miers isn’t who they wanted to be nominated, they’re willing to tear into ANYONE who doesn’t feel exactly the same, and isn’t willing to torch her and Bush to the ground until they hear what she has to say at the hearings, to see if that uncontrolled rage at her is justified. There is no more proof that Miers will be a souter than there is that she will be a Scalia. And your insulting inference that I want another souter when you don’t even know me shows a total lack of maturity and respect for others. Grow up. And if you’re a real conservative, act like it and quit insulting the character and beliefs of someone you don’t even know.

If Miers shows herself to be a souterite or a spinless coward like o’conner, I’ll be right there ripping Miers and making calls and writing letters. Until then, there is no clear evidence she is as liberal as they are. I’ve volunteered for conservative Republican campaigns, been a delegate at the Texas Republican convention, worked with pro-life organizations, worked with the Christian Coalition, went to Louisiana last year to volunteer for Charles Boustanee to help become the first Republican Congressman for that district in decades, and been a registered Republican since I was 18 and have only ever voted for Republicans all the years since then. What the hell have YOU done for the conservative Republican cause that gives you the right to tell me I’m some moderate or liberal!? You presume things that you do not know. Now be a man and apologize to me for your childish statements in your 374 post, and treat other conservatives with the same respect that you would demand for yourself. Just because they don’t agree with your explosive emotional tirades against Miers without facts or evidence to back them up. If you had any idea how conservative I am politically, religiously, ideologically, or economically, or had heard arguments I’ve had over the years with liberals, who’ve called me a flaming homophobic Christian radical nazi because I voice my conservative beliefs and am not ashamed about doing it, you’d know what a fool you are for accusing me of that. If the Republican party is filled with people who now turn on other conservatives because they demand patience and facts before blowing someone up, then the Republican party really needs to improve it’s quality control before allowing someone to register as such.

I DO demand an unflinching conservative agenda and have made that clear in the body of my posts before the Miers post, and for many years before Free Republic was even a concept. Take your sarcasm and shove it. You’re not debating an issue, you’re being an insulting name calling child who can’t voice your position against Miers, without personally tearing down those who don’t share it, and that’s not acceptable.

377 posted on 10/19/2005 11:59:32 AM PDT by Allen H (An informed person, is a conservative person. Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Bush,& the USA!)
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