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To: pillbox_girl

Once you learn and understand that the Bill of Rights does not apply to private citizens, but to the Government and its relation to private citizens, get back to me.

If your logic was correct, then the owner of this website could not ban a poster...because that would be an infringement on their right of free speech.

Until then, any discussion with you is useless.


95 posted on 10/16/2005 7:45:16 PM PDT by Panic in the Streets ("Mayor, I've confirmed the data, the hippies ARE planning a massive jam band concert!"- Eric Cartman)
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To: Panic in the Streets
Once you learn and understand that the Bill of Rights does not apply to private citizens, but to the Government and its relation to private citizens, get back to me.

Oh please. Claiming a "higher understanding" and then a hand-waving dismissal is a sure sign of someone without any real argument to back up their position. I see this all the time at liberal sites I lurk at, but it's a pretty rare thing here. That makes you pretty special.

Once I learn something that's patently untrue?

The Bill of Rights applies to EVERYONE. Plain and simple. The Second Amendment says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". It does not say "except by", or "except for". Anything else is an opening for government abuse and roundabout nullification of the right to keep and bear arms. Which is exactly what we've seen happening.

If your logic was correct, then the owner of this website could not ban a poster...because that would be an infringement on their right of free speech.

No. Once again, you are not getting it. It is not that hard a distinction to understand. The owner of this website can decide who is and is not allowed here. That is not the same thing as deciding what they can and cannot say.

Back to the Second Amendment issue (and away from your attempt at sidetracking): Say you have declared your property to be "gun free". If you do not check everyone at the door, and later find that someone does have a weapon on your private property, the MOST you can do is make that person leave. You are NOT empowered to confiscate their weapon from them or in any other way deny them their right to keep and bear arms.

And besides all that, you'd have to be especially stupid to declare your property "gun free" without specifically checking everyone at the door because all that would accomplish is ensure the only armed people on your property are there with ill intentions. I'm not saying this practice isn't common, just that it's stupid.

103 posted on 10/16/2005 8:09:06 PM PDT by pillbox_girl
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