If I could say something that would enlighten things, I would do that, Terry Ashcraft said outside his home Friday. All I can really say about it is this: I love her. She's one hell of a good kid, and I'm puzzled. I don't understand it. His daughter is not a "good kid," she is a selfish and amoral murderer.
1 posted on
10/16/2005 1:21:27 PM PDT by
wagglebee
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2 posted on
10/16/2005 1:22:08 PM PDT by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: wagglebee
Most likely a product of either a home where little or no ethical/moral/religious teaching took place, or brainwashed by public schooling or a mix of the two. Now there's a dead baby, along with a woman with a dead conscience. More nightmares to come for this family.
3 posted on
10/16/2005 1:26:08 PM PDT by
john drake
(roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
To: wagglebee
How odd. He hasn't seen or spoken to her for three years, yet he feels competent to tell us she's a "good kid." Utter nonsense. This is not worth reading, frankly.
4 posted on
10/16/2005 1:26:11 PM PDT by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: wagglebee
His daughter is not a "good kid," she is a selfish and amoral murderer.
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Seriously. She has no excuse, in these days of abortion on demand along with the CA Law of being able to abandon your baby, no strings attached. Yech.
5 posted on
10/16/2005 1:27:03 PM PDT by
BamaGirl
(The Framers Rule!)
To: wagglebee
His daughter is not a "good kid," she is a selfish and amoral murderer. A little compassion here.. if she had what the article described as a "medically unattended delivery", she was probably in agony for hours, scared out of her mind, and desperate as hell.
My main question is where were her friends? Where were the other adults is her life that had to have noticed her condition? Women under the best of circumstances have often found childbirth a harrowing and painful experience, much more so if a kid was alone and terrified.
There is way more to this story here, and I don't think any of it will reflect well on her friends and family...
6 posted on
10/16/2005 1:27:40 PM PDT by
podkane
To: wagglebee
I said it before and Ill say it again
ONE OF THE WORST THINGS IS THAT THERE ARE SO MANY LOVING AND KIND PEOPLE WHO WANT BABIES AND CANT HAVE EM BUT GARBAGE LIKE THIS CAN PLOP EM OUT
She had an out if she would have just took it to a hospital but she couldnt be bothered...burn the b***h
Next time use some birth control
8 posted on
10/16/2005 1:31:13 PM PDT by
skaterboy
(Be good)
To: wagglebee
She's one hell of a good kid She's one *itch on her way to hell.
10 posted on
10/16/2005 1:34:45 PM PDT by
Alouette
(Islam gives terrorism a bad name.)
To: wagglebee
So Ashcraft was as shocked as anyone when he learned of the allegations against Holly Ashcraft - a pretty honor roll graduate of West High who reportedly attended USC on a full scholarship.
If I could say something that would enlighten things, I would do that, Terry Ashcraft said outside his home Friday. All I can really say about it is this: I love her. She's one hell of a good kid, and I'm puzzled. I don't understand it.
YAWWWWNNNNN ... Isn't that how they describe the majority of schizophrenic murderers?
Yeah, she's a "good kid" and of course she is brilliant ... an "honor roll student". I suppose I am supposed to be impressed with that. Denial is NOT a pretty thing ... .
11 posted on
10/16/2005 1:35:39 PM PDT by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Separation of Church and Reality crowd ping.
Let's hear the smarmy skanky liberal jargon again about how
"you can't legislate morality." [IRONY]
To: wagglebee
Let's see...absent father...amoral, murdering daughter.
Yup...real "human interest" angle here.
17 posted on
10/16/2005 1:43:27 PM PDT by
Prime Choice
(E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
To: wagglebee
If he loves her so much, why hasn't he spoken to her in over three years?
18 posted on
10/16/2005 1:45:42 PM PDT by
Hildy
( liberals cannot change the present, and cannot effect the future, so they MUST relive the past...)
To: wagglebee
40 million + murdered since Roe V Wade.... Why would a young person today have a conscience about doing in a baby who would only 'ruin' her life?....
Had she had paid the professional killers to do the pre born child in...she would have no problems...
To: wagglebee
Just an incredibly sad story for all involved, but this precious baby did NOT have to die in an alley behind a bar, this lady had so many options available to her.
20 posted on
10/16/2005 1:48:52 PM PDT by
Theresawithanh
(I support President Bush, and I support our troops!!!)
To: wagglebee
Terry Ashcraft was separated from Holly's mother for some time before they divorced in 2000 or 2001. It's been years since he lived under the same roof with his daughter, whom he described as very bright, athletic and very upbeat. I posted a little piece last night about the bad effects of divorce on kids. As usual, many people who broke up with their spouses jumped up to say that theirs was an exceptional situation and so forth. I expect this guy thought so as well. But it seems to me that it's not all that surprising that the young lady who did this was a girl without a dad in her life.
To: wagglebee
"Baby-killing case against daughter shocks dad (Left her baby to die in alley behind a bar)"Once again...timing is everything - if she'd gone to planned unparenthood she could have had them murder the baby no charge and she'd be scott free.
31 posted on
10/16/2005 2:15:03 PM PDT by
patriot_wes
(papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
To: little jeremiah; DirtyHarryY2K; john drake; BamaGirl; podkane; skaterboy; Alouette; gpapa; nmh; ...
34 posted on
10/16/2005 2:23:41 PM PDT by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: wagglebee
She must be seriously disturbed. Don't have time to find it now, but there's another thread stating that last year she also sought medical care after an unattended birth---stating the baby had been stillborn and she had disposed of it.
At least that what the media is reporting.
To: wagglebee
This gal couldn't be bothered to drop the baby off at a hospital or church. Didn't fit into her plans for a hot night out., I guess.
46 posted on
10/16/2005 3:33:03 PM PDT by
SuziQ
To: wagglebee
I know a guy who is divorced.
His daughter is a slut, smokes a pack a day and drinks hard when she parties. At 22, she has already had at least 10-15 sexual partners; and he knows all this and yet, "she's a good girl, basically" .
48 posted on
10/16/2005 3:44:42 PM PDT by
ikka
To: wagglebee
His daughter is not a "good kid," she is a selfish and amoral murderer. She probably figured that abortion is legal after all and her mental health was at risk and what does a day or two matter.
52 posted on
10/16/2005 4:08:11 PM PDT by
nosofar
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