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White House warns holdouts
U.S.News.com ^ | 10/13/05 | Kenneth T. Walsh

Posted on 10/13/2005 5:47:35 PM PDT by baystaterebel

White House officials have a message for conservative Republican senators who have expressed doubt about supporting Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers.

The West Wing types argue that she will turn out to be just as conservative as President Bush says she is, and voting against her would be an embarrassment over the long term. This message is intended for holdouts including Sam Brownback of Kansas, Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, and Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania.

"If Miers is confirmed and she winds up being what the president says she is, Republican senators who voted against her will look quite foolish," says a GOP insider. This could cause a backlash against these legislators from conservative Bush supporters at the grass roots.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: miers; scotus
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To: cmotormac44

Oh, I did that long ago and I don't care what anyone thinks of it or me never really have. Of course, it just adds to the distortions. "Well you only think that way because you are...." As though any thought of mine is not something adopted without any concern but what I think or believe.


621 posted on 10/14/2005 11:55:19 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Kryptonite
Don't mistake a Tempest in a Teapot with a
"furor."
622 posted on 10/14/2005 11:56:50 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Cboldt
I'm not necessarily demanding a known . . . conservative.

. . .

But I am demanding a nominee with a tangible, useful record.

You're demanding someone you can figure out but nobody else knows about.

I'm having a hard time making that demand, pragmatically speaking.

623 posted on 10/15/2005 12:10:28 AM PDT by Kryptonite (McCain, Graham, Warner, Snowe, Collins, DeWine, Chafee - put them in your sights)
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To: Kryptonite
You're demanding someone you can figure out but nobody else knows about.

Not at all. My "absolute" requirement is that the judicial philosophy of the candidate be known or knowable to everybody, regardless of what that philosophy is. I want a fair fight - fair for DEMs, and fair for the GOP. Reasoned dialog, on the public square.

If we get that, I'll entertain a compromise on the judicial philosophy, but not much. I would not accept Gonzales for example. I know his record, and he is a judicial activist.

I understand that the first "absolute" point cannot be literally absolute. There is alwasy some amount of uncertainy, gaps in the record, etc. Miers has way too little - Roberts had enough, barely, to my sensibility. Not that it matters, Roberts didn't trigger a public reaction, so any personal misgivings I may have had were, for practical purposes, irrelevant.

624 posted on 10/15/2005 12:19:17 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

I stand corrected on your requirements. But that prior statement made me wonder.


625 posted on 10/15/2005 12:30:39 AM PDT by Kryptonite (McCain, Graham, Warner, Snowe, Collins, DeWine, Chafee - put them in your sights)
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To: Kryptonite
I stand corrected on your requirements. But that prior statement made me wonder.

Communications is a difficult prospect, on a subject that doesn't have well-defined terms. At least none that I know of, that are in common use. Add to that my stunning ability to write indeciperable prose, and well, it's no wonder you wondered what I was trying to say ;-)

626 posted on 10/15/2005 12:38:31 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: cmotormac44

You owe her an apology not an excuse that your are old enough to be excused for bad behavior. What a crock. Some of us believe in Loyal Opposition but your reference to opposing the President on specific matters had nothing to do with the post where you called the lady an idiot. That post referred to Santorum. I guess when you reach a certain age you begin to feel you have rights of bad behaviour you aren't willing to grant to others. Can't wait 'till I get that old.


627 posted on 10/15/2005 7:19:55 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: Made in USA
--------------------->DITTO!
628 posted on 10/15/2005 7:29:42 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: cmotormac44

Now you insult those who disagree with others (and behind their e-back as well)....maybe those without home pages don't feel a need to fill in every blank on the page just because it's there or maybe they think courage is more than bragging about it. Maybe it's more about how you treat people and defending your position in an honorable and civil way. Especially to those who disagree with you. If you are referring to me I didn't disaprove of your remark I disapproved of your insult. There is too much of that creeping into FR.


629 posted on 10/15/2005 10:26:03 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: Les_Miserables

age has nothing to do with it---when I was much younger I told people like you to "stuff it"--so, "stuff it"


630 posted on 10/15/2005 5:37:04 PM PDT by cmotormac44
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To: GladesGuru

Ready fire aim! Why can't everybody wait for the hearings to form an opinion? It's not like GW is going to change his mind over all this premature breast beating from conservatives.


631 posted on 10/15/2005 5:48:11 PM PDT by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: csmusaret
Perhaps what we are doing is gathering the rank and file Pubbies in a revolt against the country club, RINO, and Liberal, Republicans.

They are OK with ED abuse, CFR, UN, ad nauseam.

We aren't.

Miers has no clear patterns to her life which indicate she is our type of person. And every day, more and more appears suggesting she has neither the commitments nor beliefs that we are finding acceptable.

"Trust me, I'm from the government" won't cut it. Even when President Bush says it.

Wasn't it Madison who said "Trust no man with the keys to Liberty"? And in today's American legal battles, SCOTUS appointments are an all too great impact on Liberty. We just don't trust anyone who found NAACP acceptable but the Federalist Society unacceptable.
632 posted on 10/15/2005 7:13:01 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: Les_Miserables

OOOOOOw...mature..and courageous too.


633 posted on 10/16/2005 8:13:23 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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