Posted on 10/12/2005 8:24:45 PM PDT by navysealdad
So end it with the Black Sox BS.
these losers (umps) know they blew it but don't have the class to come out and say so. someone should sue them. this could cost people jobs and livelihoods. i hate refs and umps. baseball should go to totally computerized umpiring. laser strike zone and replay for all other calls.
-A8
Agreed... I'm just incredulous. Why bother following 162 baseball games a year... then it comes down to crap like this?! >:-(
(I'm a Red Sox fan, rooting for the Angels in this ALCS)
Sorry, it hit the ridge in the bottom of the webbing, not the ground. Seriously, would a pro catcher just roll the ball back to the pitcher without easily tagging the runner out if he wasn't ABSOLUTELY positive he caught the ball, something he has done a million times in his career. He has got enough balls in the dirt to easily know the difference.
Is this a new version of the Black Sox in which the ump is part of throwing the game.
No, it's Bush's fault.
That's one thing that makes baseball great: you can watch it for forty years and still see something you've never seen before.
I am assuming the batter did not offer at the ball at all so it could not be called a swinging strike. If so, I need at least one more frame. The ball seems to be past the plate already in your first frame.
I thought it was Harriet Miers' fault.
I hate it when games end with lame stuf like this play. It would have been way better to have a clean uncontroversial win, because the Sox will always be blamed.
But they did nothing wrong, it was a heads up play by AJ. He said after the game he got caught on the exact same thing with the Giants. He didn't hear the word OUT.
Who did screw up?
1) Josh. Rookie play. Any vetran catcher should tag in that situation.
2) The Ump. In his defense, he could not see the camera angle shown in the pictures of this thread. He signaled no contact, then he signaled Strike, but he did not CLEARLY signal OUT, nor (from reports) did he say OUT.
The ball hit the dirt mere inches from impacting the catcher's glove. Watch it frame by frame and the frame before impact shows the ball at a lower hieght than at the catch. That was my (and my friends) first clue.
The catcher's mistake was not routinely tagging the batter. Period.
'Hanging chads'
Not only did the Angels players start walking off the field, I thought I saw A.J. Pierzinski (sp?) walk towards the dugout before turning suddenly and running towards first- he even believed that he was out at first.
That's what I thought I saw, but I have yet to see it again.
He clearly raised his clenched fist shoulder high and pumped it once.
That signals OUT.
No ifs, ands or buts.
Want some cheese with that whine? GO SOX!
Living in Oregon, I am not too emotionally involved, but there I was sitting in the local pub enjoying a VERY GOOD local microbrew watching the ALCS. My exclamation of "WHAT!!!" disturbed some patrons and I had to apoplogize. Then they all gathered around and watched the replay. Unanimity here in PDX - LA WAS ROBBED.
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