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To: Alter Kaker

May I suggest that you go back to school and stop by the department that teaches logical thinking and ask them what "Reductio ad absurdam" means? I rarely read these stupid evolution threads, and even more seldom post on them, but I couldn't resist an attempt at humor. Sorry that your belief system is so weak that you can't take a little jab.

Why do evolution proponents immediately get hysterical, go on the attack, and assume that anyone who doesn't believe the official party line is an uneducated dunce? Has science become that Stalinist?

Let me propose a test for you: you create a protocol whereby one species turns into another species - I'm not talking about a minor variation like green birds having blue offspring or slightly different beaks, I'm talking a completely new species - like a reptile into a bird. Then let's take that protocol to several independent labs and have them repeat the experiment under controlled conditions. If your protocol works, I'll start worshipping your god. If it doesn't work, YOU go back to school and learn the difference between "philosophy" and true "science".


146 posted on 10/12/2005 5:32:30 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: GadareneDemoniac
Let me propose a test for you: you create a protocol whereby one species turns into another species - I'm not talking about a minor variation like green birds having blue offspring or slightly different beaks, I'm talking a completely new species - like a reptile into a bird. Then let's take that protocol to several independent labs and have them repeat the experiment under controlled conditions. If your protocol works, I'll start worshipping your god. If it doesn't work, YOU go back to school and learn the difference between "philosophy" and true "science".

Nice distraction with the "worshiping your god" routine. I love theatrical history -- I think this particular joke dates from about 1859.

But before anyone wastes any time trying your proposal, why not show us somewhere in the scientific literature where this is predicted by the Theory of Evolution?

If this sort of thing were demonstrated to have happened, it would disprove the Theory of Evolution.

I have an alternate proposal: How about learning something about the theory you're rejecting before you post again?< /holding breath >

148 posted on 10/12/2005 6:20:51 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: GadareneDemoniac
I'm not talking about a minor variation like green birds having blue offspring or slightly different beaks, I'm talking a completely new species - like a reptile into a bird.

And this is exactly why we don't take creationists seriosuly -- because clearly you don't know what a species is. A different beak shape could be a trivial thing -- a coding allele in a population -- or it could mark the divider between two discrete non-inter-breeding populations, which, in that case, would be "two completely different species." If you had been awake during your middle school biology class, you'd understand that evolution from reptiles to birds represents class evolution, not simply a new species.

If your protocol works, I'll start worshipping your god.

My God is the God of Abraham, and I don't want you worshipping Him, thank you very much. I'm sure there are other more evangelical religions that would be more welcoming of fools like yourself.

154 posted on 10/12/2005 7:38:49 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: GadareneDemoniac

A joke or a jab from a position of knowledge would be readily acceptable. The same from a position of ignorance deserves all the ridicule it might garner.


155 posted on 10/12/2005 7:51:23 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: GadareneDemoniac
Let me propose a test for you: you create a protocol whereby one species turns into another species - I'm not talking about a minor variation like green birds having blue offspring or slightly different beaks, I'm talking a completely new species - like a reptile into a bird.

Are you suggesting that this be done in a single generation?

If your protocol works, I'll start worshipping your god

Science isn't about "worship". You blatantly misstate what science does, then you wonder why we question your competence in the field.
165 posted on 10/12/2005 11:55:31 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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