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1 posted on 10/10/2005 8:55:13 AM PDT by Warhammer
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chuck muth just killed a kitten!


2 posted on 10/10/2005 8:58:48 AM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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"George W is not the Pope. He is not infallible. He made a mistake. But it's a mistake which can and should be rectified."

Exactly. Bush shouldn't ignore the fact that he's losing his "Halo Effect" from this. If he rams Miers through every conservative commentator that's against this will judge him just as tough as they would if he were a Democratic President. He will have totally lost his base of support both intellectually and electorally.


3 posted on 10/10/2005 9:01:05 AM PDT by Betaille ("Ms. Miers's record is one of supporting a conservative position and then abandoning it." -John Fund)
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We could have thrown a touchdown. Instead we ran it up the middle for a two-yard gain.

So that's what happened to Paul Hackett.

4 posted on 10/10/2005 9:01:55 AM PDT by Dahoser (The Clymer gene continues to replicate. Now that's biological warfare.)
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The visceral objections to Harriet Miers have more to do with the fact that many conservative activists have been toiling in the political trenches for many years to elect a Republican president and a Republican Senate for the expressed purpose of being able to seat individuals on the nation's highest court who have the conservative judicial and intellectual star-power and brain-power we were denied by the Left when they "borked" Robert Bork.

That's the whole enchilada in a mixed metaphor nutshell.

8 posted on 10/10/2005 9:05:00 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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The president is too short sighted in this. His conservative base has been given precious little to rally around lately. It iswishy washy moves like this that will cause the GOP to lose control of the House and Senate next year. Give uus something to sink our teeth into and LEAD!


9 posted on 10/10/2005 9:05:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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Actually I think Thomas Sowell supports her, somewhat. But the list is still long.


12 posted on 10/10/2005 9:06:10 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past ("Let the wicked man forsake his way and the evil man his thoughts. Let him turn to the Lord" Is 55:7)
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And then to rub salt in this open wound, the president insulted the nation's collective intelligence by claiming, laughably, that he "picked the best person (he) could find."

That line really is hard to ignore, isn't it? He must have bit his lip hard when he said it to prevent the involuntatry laughter.

14 posted on 10/10/2005 9:06:39 AM PDT by NYS_Eric
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George W is not the Pope. He is not infallible. He made a mistake. But it's a mistake which can and should be rectified. The nation need not settle for second or third best with this lifetime appointment. President Bush should take a "mulligan," withdraw this nomination and appoint someone such as Judge Janice Rogers Brown instead. Absent that, Ms. Miers should take herself out of the game - for the good of the conservative movement and for the good of the nation.

Here's part of Andrew Sullivan's take on it today:

In the matter of the Supreme Court, Bush's fundamental motives are sticking a finger in the eye of his intellectual supporters, and keeping a crony so close to him that his executive running of the war on terror will never be subject to real Congressional oversight. (Miers is insurance for the executive-branch-worshipping Roberts). Kitty Kelley notes how this president has sealed off from the public decades of presidential data that are vitally important to making democracy work. But this president is and always has been as much a dauphin as a president. He's responsible for a dynasty as much as a democracy. Miers is the dynasty's constitutional guardian - as well as potentially a minimalist Justice, in line with Roberts. No other candidate could fulfill both roles. Bush, in other words, is treating the Court as a means for personal protection and dynastic noblesse oblige. The question is simply whether the GOP wants to become the vehicle for a crony-ridden aristocracy or something more transparent and meritocratic.

If Sullivan is correct, Bush is trying to tell the grassroots with this nomination that he doesn't need them anymore, and that they can go do it flying. Not a message to give Congressional Republicans the warm fuzzies.

31 posted on 10/10/2005 9:25:18 AM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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We could have had filet mignon. Instead we got hamburger. We could have had Dom Perignon. Instead we got Pabst Blue Ribbon.

I'd say Miers is more smoked brisket and Lone Star--which I would prefer to filet mignon and Dom.

Miers got her undergrad degree in mathematics and packs a 45 revolver--I'm interested to hear the hearings.

Seriously I think that way too many conservatives have lost (or never had) a clear conception of what a Supreme should be. Miers is a logic and detail person, not a ideological fountainhead, and thus may be perfect for filling one of the nine seats.

38 posted on 10/10/2005 9:29:05 AM PDT by Poincare
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George W is not the Pope. He is not infallible. He made a mistake. But it's a mistake which can and should be rectified. The nation need not settle for second or third best with this lifetime appointment. President Bush should take a "mulligan," withdraw this nomination and appoint someone such as Judge Janice Rogers Brown instead. Absent that, Ms. Miers should take herself out of the game - for the good of the conservative movement and for the good of the nation.

I love Chuck Muth. I've been getting his newsletter for years.

55 posted on 10/10/2005 9:39:22 AM PDT by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote. ~ Mark Sanford for President!)
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George W is not the Pope. He is not infallible.

Blasphemy! Ban his columns from FR! Traitor! Inside the beltway elitist!

71 posted on 10/10/2005 9:52:26 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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It's a mistake to restrict the blame for this to Bush and the Miers pick. The seeds were sown when the White House refused to fight for Estrada and Frist and the Senate pubbies backed down from a fight on the filibuster, handing the appointments power over to the Dems.

We worked for six years to get a Republican President and Senate precisely to put a majority on the Supreme Court and Bush, Frist and McCain hand it all back to the Dems. I, for one, am one da#$ed tired Bushbot.

89 posted on 10/10/2005 10:08:46 AM PDT by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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Rainy days and Mondays, and conservative kindred souls
slanging back and forth, well, they always get me down.

Nothing to see here, let's move along.


109 posted on 10/10/2005 10:26:48 AM PDT by tumblindice
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Good grief, where are the hearing starting and then a vote? I am so sick of hearing all the whining I could barf.


196 posted on 10/10/2005 1:46:40 PM PDT by Texas Mom
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A good argument, except that the Presient has the right to nominate whom he pleases and the Senate has the right to confirm or not, and that neither is bound by the wishes of the "conservative movement." If that movement were strong enough, it would have elected 51 senators whose votes could be taken for granted not only on nominations but on a raft of other issues dear to the conservative heart.


215 posted on 10/11/2005 5:22:14 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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