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GOP rank and file back Miers
The Washington Times ^
| 10/10/05
| Donald Lambro
Posted on 10/10/2005 5:30:35 AM PDT by gobucks
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To: Wormwood
I forgive you for demanding perfect adherance to your agenda, rather than the closest thing you could reasonably hope for.
PS That's why they call it politics...
141
posted on
10/10/2005 7:48:50 AM PDT
by
ez
(W. quells 2 consecutive filibusters and gets 2 religious people on the court. Bravo!!)
To: Les_Miserables
If you have a direct quote I'm willing to hear it but I know what I read that was attibuted to him as a direct quote. It was not an endorsement of Miers. He was asked directly about her, and said he didn't know her, and therefore had no impression.
The GOP-bots are deliberately misrepresenting Scalia's note that a non-jurist is a good thing on the court as personal endorsement of the Miers nomination.
142
posted on
10/10/2005 7:49:05 AM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: ez
I'm not demanding adherence to any agenda. If you really believe that, then specify the agenda to which you think I'm demanding adherence.
143
posted on
10/10/2005 7:50:02 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Corporatism is not conservatism)
To: Vicomte13; GarySpFc
"
...It's WHY folks like me have gritted our teeth and grumbled - but not defied the party - on massive deficits, massive increases in entitlements, and open borders on two continents. All of that could be endured in order to get TO THIS PLACE. Well, we're here, but the President is playing this one like a political game instead of the Waterloo Battlefield that it is, for one side or the other."
BUMP!
144
posted on
10/10/2005 7:50:03 AM PDT
by
azhenfud
(He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
To: AndyJackson
While the foremen ar silent, the workers are putting up pictures of the company president in pink tights. ROTFL.
145
posted on
10/10/2005 7:50:50 AM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: Wormwood
You're prolly right. What am I thinking!?!
146
posted on
10/10/2005 7:51:56 AM PDT
by
azhenfud
(He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
To: GraniteStateConservative
Leonard Leo is a Bushbot?
To: Vicomte13
"
Because if you're wrong, when they head out the door into "oblivion" (actually, they will be alive and well and enjoying lives and families and business), your own ship sinks with them, and takes you down to oblivion too."
Whether I am wrong, or right, is of no consequence in this matter.
I do find it somewhat amusing that many here seem to believe because they voted and spent time and energy on FR pumping themselves up, that they have an inherent right to suddenly call the shots for GWB. Albeit many may have even worked as volunteers for the Republican Party, where does this gall come from?
BTW ... Enjoying life and oblivion seem to be acontradictions in terms. To me anyway.
148
posted on
10/10/2005 7:52:59 AM PDT
by
G.Mason
To: KosmicKitty
So you have no quote for Scalia? Right, I didn't think so. All fluff and no substance. And don't call me honey.. And I don't know if Brown could get through, It would have been tough (may have been the right thing to do but tough), but that has nothing to do with my lack of knowledge regarding Miers and I do not believe in a stealth nominee. I think it is wrong. That has nothing to do with my reading of exactly what Scalia said and it was far from an endorsement of Miers which is the point you want to avoid. If you have an contrary opinion you are welcome to your error but try hard to avoid insulting others who do not share it. It's not FRiendly. Babe.
To: Vicomte13
I CAN'T back down, because everything I believe in depends upon gaining control of the Supreme Court and using that control to dismantle the atrocities that Court has inflicted on America, starting with Roe v. Wade. And I cannot accept "Trust me" on the very CORE of my beliefs.
I was likely fighting the liberals and pro-choicers when you were in diapers, and I will match the effort I have expended in the pro-life movement and conservative politics with most. I know the price that has been paid to arrive at this point. You need to take a Prozac and sit down and listen to what the lady says.
150
posted on
10/10/2005 7:54:50 AM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: ez
I forgive you for demanding perfect adherance to your agenda, rather than the closest thing you could reasonably hope for.If Miers is the "closest thing" to a well-qualified niominee we could "reasonably hope for", then what was the point of busting our balls to get a GOP majority? This is it?
PS That's why they call it politics...
And that's why Bush, desipite his carefully crafted image, is just another politician.
151
posted on
10/10/2005 7:55:37 AM PDT
by
Wormwood
(Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
To: Vicomte13
since the party apparatus, instead of trying to find a compromise, seems hellbent on stiff-arming the opposition and forcing them into the ranks. *bump*
I enjoyed your series of posts on this thread. Thanks for taking the time. And I agree with you, the burden in on the party to attract voters. The "blame the voter" schtick is responsibility avoidance.
152
posted on
10/10/2005 7:56:33 AM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: Vicomte13
Your response is well thought out and I appreciate the chance to view the other side. I thought a while how to counter it, but the easiest way is this...
How you appear to me is as part of a majority, but not a crushing majority, who has played a bad hand, refuses to admit a mistake, and is determined to silence opposition in his own ranks - to compel obedience.
While I admit the President was dealt a bad hand, I think he has played it well. You can't make two jacks into a flush.
The reason it seems the other side wishes to silence you and compel obedience is that it is YOU who is making the unreasonable demands.
What you want cannot be achieved right now...the political landscape does not allow it, yet you still would split the party seeking the perfect before the good.
Like the Dems who fight W at every turn then blame him for partisanship, you resist the fact that political realities (read spineless senate) force W to compromise and then blame him for not appeasing you.
153
posted on
10/10/2005 7:57:10 AM PDT
by
ez
(W. quells 2 consecutive filibusters and gets 2 religious people on the court. Bravo!!)
To: Redbob
"Why Miers when there are so many QUALIFIED candidates out there?"You mean like the dean of Pepperdine U.? Hugh Hewlett notes that he's about the most qualified Republican lawyer there is - but became politically untouchable when he accepted the job of special prosecutor investigating the Lewinski scandal.
154
posted on
10/10/2005 7:58:41 AM PDT
by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
To: Cboldt
Yep, I know...just tryin to get them to go into insult mode...getting easier by the minute...just ask for hard data or specific quote or reference and WHAP. Better Duck. Hard to stay objective around here these days.
To: oblomov
"
OK, we'll put you in charge of picking the ice cream.
Now, back to the topic..."
I must say that the mood has seemingly swung over from the ... "Take a hike you idiot! ..." to a more civil attempt at expression.
Could it be that we will have a Senate hearing and be able to sort this matter out?
It does give one cautious optimism.
156
posted on
10/10/2005 8:00:27 AM PDT
by
G.Mason
To: Wormwood
And that's why Bush, desipite his carefully crafted image, is just another politician.Exactly. Now you're starting to get it. You know, there are 125 million people in this country who don't agree with you.
Accept the three yard run as an advance, even though you didn't hit the 30 yard touchdown pass and live to run another play.
157
posted on
10/10/2005 8:00:36 AM PDT
by
ez
(W. quells 2 consecutive filibusters and gets 2 religious people on the court. Bravo!!)
To: ez
"
Accept the three yard run as an advance, even though you didn't hit the 30 yard touchdown pass and live to run another play."
When the ravine is a half mile deep and twenty yards wide, thirty is much nicer. Three could get you a half mile in the wrong direction.
158
posted on
10/10/2005 8:04:50 AM PDT
by
azhenfud
(He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
To: G.Mason
Those that are moaning the loudest are probably not part of the Republican leadership ... True, true. The GOP leadership is hard peddeling this nomination. Geaux TEAM! Rah Rah Rah!
Top-down management has its place, but it is a very risky tactic with the issue (Miers nomination) on the table.
159
posted on
10/10/2005 8:05:02 AM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: thoughtomator
I'm not demanding adherence to any agenda. If you really believe that, then specify the agenda to which you think I'm demanding adherence.The agenda to defeat Roe v Wade...the same agenda I have. I, however, am willing to accept that political realities dictate the size of any step you can take without falling down.
160
posted on
10/10/2005 8:05:10 AM PDT
by
ez
(W. quells 2 consecutive filibusters and gets 2 religious people on the court. Bravo!!)
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