Posted on 10/09/2005 6:41:34 PM PDT by neverdem
To be fair, I don't think any scientist would use the phrase 'a sign of'. Whether global warming proponent or sceptic, he would say, in both cases, 'consistent with'. A warm or a cold winter in any one region is weather. Global change is climate. The inability to understand the distinction between weather and climate is the underlying conceptual error which is the greatest souce of confusion in the political, media and popular (as distinct from the scientific debate) on this issue. A certain direction of change in the one does not imply the same direction of change in the other. All climate models, from all sides of the argument, assume the persistence of huge regional, local and temporal anomalies around a norm.
Says a lot right there.
Thirty years ago when I was a geology undergrad, everyone was in a panic about the coming Ice Age.
I guess we've produced so much CO2 that we warmed Mars up, too.
As for consensus, If your dissertation does not pass review, no PhD.
If your thesis doesn't get by the global warmers on your panel, no MS.
If your paper did not make it through peer review, it goes unpublished.
Don't publish, professor?--you perish.
Who are you going to use for a reference?
I do not see how borehole temperatures relate to global warming as a climatological problem, nor how human activity would cause deeper crustal temperatures to vary.
The globe may be warming, but the idea that that warming is anthropogenic is highly doubtful.
Thanks for that link; I had forgotten about that site and did not have it bookmarked. NOW I do. Thanks again!
This has been pundit Phil Brennan's theory for a long time: that we are in an interstitial warming period because of an impending ice age, NOT global warming.
All weather that floods or parches the land and makes the potential voter sweat or shiver is consistent with man's resistance to Al Gore's policies.
Any dummy knows that potholes in the roads are caused by global warming.
I'm relieved to see that at least someone else has thought of the Sun as female. Most seem to get caught up on the masculine name Sol...
I portrayed the Sun as being a performer.
The author seems to spend a lot of time saying that the global warming 'skeptics' are dominating the discussion. This is a ridiculous premise which totally diregards the predisposition of the MSM to accept globabl warming and man's blame for it as fact.
Thanks for the interesting article on simulations. I have used simulations in my job for years, but put your trust in them? As a systems engineer, we have analysts who very much desire that their model and their advice be used, but we never do until the model is "verified". Recently a model of a pressure vessel exploding turned out to be about a factor of two too low in energy. when we actually tested it, we blew the lab setting apart. So much for models.
I have had a lot of experience with ISPICE models too, it almost seems that anyone can become an electrical engineer these days. But you are right to build and test the actual circuit.
They say the scientists don't know how to communicate with the public. Perhaps its actually because most of the public is unwilling to look up their articles and try to understand them, with the help of classes or textbooks if necessary. The scientists could be communicating just fine for the section of the public that actually bothers to read their articles.
I thought Air Force One had holding tanks!
20 years ago the same 'models' were warning us of an impending ICE AGE. These guys are always warning...just to keep the Federal Grants coming in. They could not find real productive work anywhere.
Yes, one of the great con jobs is to go to the artic during the peak temperature in the late summer and freak out about melting ice. They need to balance this by going back in the late winter and show that it freezes back up.
It looks to me as if the ice and snow are just shifting location from one part of the artic to another.
I think the little ice age they predicted in the late 1970's is actually starting. The hot temperatures of the last few years are probably overshoot before it swings cold, coupled with solar activity.
I have worked with integrated circuit designers who constantly have simulations show the silicon will work, only to have the actual first cut devices fail completely.
You would not torpedo a thriving economy based on these things. Worse yet, to get where global warming alarmists say we need to be takes about 5 to 6 Kyoto's until you are not burning much of anything at all. I guarantee the technology is not there yet.
Good Hunting... from Varmint Al
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