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To: grey_whiskers
It's true that when you tax a form of income then people will shift their income to another form if at all possible. It is also true that if you tax consumption of a certain kind (final retail) you'll get less of it. But it is also true that sooner or later Americans will run out of used stuff and and sooner or later Americans will revert to their old habits of wanting to be the first on their block to HAVE ONE.

BTW, the fair tax taxes services.

19 posted on 10/07/2005 10:13:16 AM PDT by groanup (shred for Ian)
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To: groanup; grey_whiskers; Bigun

It's true that when you tax a form of income then people will shift their income to another form if at all possible. It is also true that if you tax consumption of a certain kind (final retail) you'll get less of it.

More importantly if one visibly taxes all final consumption including services, (not just a certain kind) and do not tax savings or investment, the incentives to earn and to invest our earnings increase.

A sorely need change regarding the dangerous trends we have been on since the early 80's:

 

http://mwhodges.home.att.net/family_a.htm#Saving

From the Grandfather Economic Report
by Michael Hodges

Rate of Personal Saving Plunges 100% - to new record low - $985 Billion missing

saving from disposable incomeIf families have less inflation-adjusted income, despite mother working, then family personal savings must suffer as a consequence - unless, of course, families reduce their consumption. But, families increased consumption spending and, to cover this, they reduced savings to historic lows and increased household debt to historic highs. Dangerous Trend !!!

The chart at the left shows a 45 year trend of that part of disposable income that has been saved - - called 'personal savings rate'.

Note: prior to 1970 the rate of personal savings was rising smartly - - as were family incomes per the first chart above - despite most families then having but one wage earner while also living without increasing debt ratios (chart below).

Then, family incomes stagnated - - and the saving ratio stopped rising as seen in the left chart - - then started falling rapidly - - plummeting since 1992. As of June 2005, savings were at an all-time record low of zero percent !! $985 Billion in savings missing in 2004 compared to savings ratio of 2 decades ago. (realized capital gains, not calculated in the savings rate, mitigate this chart somewhat if one wishes to call such savings - - but the trend with and without is at all-time record lows).


20 posted on 10/07/2005 11:11:12 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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