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Rove Said to Testify in CIA Leak Case
AP ^ | October 6, 2005 | JOHN SOLOMON

Posted on 10/06/2005 12:19:41 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Federal prosecutors have accepted an offer from presidential adviser Karl Rove to give 11th-hour testimony in the case of a CIA officer's leaked identity but have warned they cannot guarantee he won't be indicted, according to people directly familiar with the investigation.

The persons, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because of grand jury secrecy, said Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has not made any decision yet on whether to file criminal charges against the longtime confidant of President Bush or others.

The U.S. attorney's manual requires prosecutors not to bring witnesses before a grand jury if there is a possibility of future criminal charges unless they are notified in advance that their grand jury testimony can be used against them in a later indictment.

Rove has already made at least three grand jury appearances and his return at this late stage in the investigation is unusual.

The prosecutor did not give Rove similar warnings before his earlier grand jury appearances.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; cialeak; plame; rove; skyisfalling
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To: ConservativeGreek
If this were true then Rove would be a target. If there was a crime. The prosecutor would not bring a target into the Grand Jury room. Doesn't happen.

Actually, I think they don't name you as a target until right before (or simultaneously with) indicting you. I'm sure they know you are a target from day one, but don't want to make you an official target, because they want to get you to cooperate with them and perhaps give them information they can use against you or someone else. I had a friend who was never an official target but was indicted at the 12th hour on the last day of the statute of limitations. Perhaps they called his lawyer that day to tell him he was a target

In this case, we know there was no official crime (like the bogus naming a covert agent crap), so the only thing the prosecutor can do if he wants to get someone is try to get them for perjury. He can't get them for perjury if they don't testify, so he can't name them as a target until the end.

The only way that Rove will be indicted is if Fitzgerald is part of the democratic conspiracy to alter the 2006 elections by painting the republicans as having a "culture of corruption". Some say Fitzgerald is a professional and wouldn't do this, but he is a democrat and he may also be looking for some big star to put on his resume for future elective office.

261 posted on 10/06/2005 7:45:32 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: rocklobster11
Actually, I think they don't name you as a target until right before (or simultaneously with) indicting you.

Judge Andrew Napolitano, on FOX News, said the same thing.

262 posted on 10/06/2005 7:50:05 PM PDT by CaptainK
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To: rocklobster11
I think I was wrong in assuming Fitzgerald was a Democrat. It turns out he is a Republican. And it looks like his reappointment as a federal prosecutor is in doubt as a result of retalitation for going after the Daley machine in Chicago.

Thus, I can't believe he'd go after Rove or Libby on a trumped up prejury trap. Perhaps he's planning on blowing the cover off the media conspiracy to bring down Bush, and will indict Cooper and Miller.

263 posted on 10/06/2005 8:29:43 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: Mister Baredog

"I think George W. Bush would be wise to cut Karl Rove loose.

I think FRee Republic would be wise to cut you loose, troll."

One of the reasons that President Bush commands such loyalty is that he gives such loyalty.

And besides, if it comes time that somebody as politically aware and smart as Karl Rove would help the administration more by resigning, nobody will have to tell him - he would be the first to know.

But I would bet just about anything that none of the original charges had merit - but it is awfully easy in a case like this to get an obstruction charge - that is the concern, I think.


264 posted on 10/06/2005 8:49:37 PM PDT by gondramB (Conservatism is a positive doctrine. Reactionaryism is a negative doctrine.)
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To: 60 Miles North
Meet Larry Johnson...
265 posted on 10/06/2005 9:03:58 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (When you hear the sound of hooves, look for horses, not zebras.)
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To: 60 Miles North
"The Declining Terrorist Threat", by Larry Johnson (July 10, 2001)
266 posted on 10/06/2005 9:10:01 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (When you hear the sound of hooves, look for horses, not zebras.)
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To: cyncooper
As I think you have been following this closely...do you know if David Corn was subpoenaed? I had read a while ago that he wasn't yet his article on July 16, 2003, 2 days after Novak's, was ahead of the Newsday article that is so often cited. Corn seems to be the first to charge that Bush officials blew Plame's cover.
267 posted on 10/06/2005 9:59:11 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: rocklobster11

:Thus, I can't believe he'd go after Rove or Libby on a trumped up prejury trap. Perhaps he's planning on blowing the cover off the media conspiracy to bring down Bush, and will indict Cooper and Miller.

A) Do you think all law enforcement is (or should be)partisan?
B) What is Miller guilty of, not writing a piece that exposed Plame? That is a crime how?
C) Do you think that this administration's enemies are only Democrats? Think again. Think in particular CIA.


268 posted on 10/07/2005 5:51:19 AM PDT by I8NY (A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds--but sensible consistency is a good thing.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
For what it's worth, D.C. has been swirling in the rumors and expectations that Rove would be indicted.

I'm sure there are lots of rumors and HOPES that he will be indicted. Maybe some folks are hoping that talking about it and pushing the idea will make it happen.

269 posted on 10/07/2005 5:56:03 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: cyncooper

CLUELESS POST????

Brainless and thoughtless response from you


270 posted on 10/07/2005 6:30:27 AM PDT by 60 Miles North
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To: cyncooper

My post was based on the FACT that I witnessed Larry J on Buchanan and Press in 2003 when he NAMED LIBBY, that is ALL. The typical emotional over-reaction to anything that even smacks of opposition to the partyline is not unanticipated. I VOTED for this admin BOTH TIMES, but I DO have a mind of my own, and give serious consideration to the TRUTH...novel idea, huh???


271 posted on 10/07/2005 6:36:14 AM PDT by 60 Miles North
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To: richconklin

Sniff sniff


272 posted on 10/07/2005 6:37:54 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (It was a village of idiots that raised Hillary to Senator status.)
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To: 60 Miles North

That's sweet.

So what?

I used to watch Chris Matthews spit "Scooter", "Scooter Libby", "Libby" or "Cheney's office" for months before it came out Libby had long ago waived any confidentiality and had nothing to hide.

Johnson's facts are twisted or flat out wrong and he is discredited.

The only emotional outburst is your ALL CAPS hysterics when confronted with fact. It helps if your "opposition to the party line" had a basis in truth and reality otherwise your opinion can be disregarded.

P.S. I'm the serious one here. You traffic in propaganda.


273 posted on 10/07/2005 7:02:35 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

I rest my case...LOL


274 posted on 10/07/2005 7:14:08 AM PDT by 60 Miles North
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To: 60 Miles North

Oh, you think you emerged the winner of that exchange?

What a fool.

Facts trump hysterical braying any day.

Before posting idiotic blather about the likes of Larry Johnson it would behoove you to know what you're talking about.


275 posted on 10/07/2005 7:25:21 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Dolphy

I've never heard that Corn was called, but you're right, he was the first to get the talking points.


276 posted on 10/07/2005 8:02:24 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: I8NY


277 posted on 10/07/2005 8:31:00 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: cyncooper

"UPDATE V: Just preliminary, but a question: "What did Judy tell Fitzgerald about Cooper?" The answer, "What Rove is going to be talking about"."


http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/10/plame-game-final-curtain.html


278 posted on 10/07/2005 11:28:27 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: frankjr
"UPDATE V: Just preliminary, but a question: "What did Judy tell Fitzgerald about Cooper?" The answer, "What Rove is going to be talking about"."

Interesting update because as I was looking through my files this morning I came across an article I had saved noting Cooper had visited Miller in jail (then again, who didn't).

279 posted on 10/07/2005 12:47:37 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: frankjr; YaYa123

It wasn't an article...I had been looking through my history and saw YaYa's catch of Matt Cooper appearing on CSPAN. Thanks for making that note, YaYa:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1493909/posts?page=177#177

Caught just a snippet of C-Span, Matt Cooper saying, yes he did visit Judith Miller in jail.

177 posted on 09/30/2005 6:33:13 AM PDT by YaYa123


280 posted on 10/07/2005 1:21:06 PM PDT by cyncooper
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