Posted on 10/06/2005 12:19:41 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
Federal prosecutors have accepted an offer from presidential adviser Karl Rove to give 11th-hour testimony in the case of a CIA officer's leaked identity but have warned they cannot guarantee he won't be indicted, according to people directly familiar with the investigation.
The persons, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because of grand jury secrecy, said Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has not made any decision yet on whether to file criminal charges against the longtime confidant of President Bush or others.
The U.S. attorney's manual requires prosecutors not to bring witnesses before a grand jury if there is a possibility of future criminal charges unless they are notified in advance that their grand jury testimony can be used against them in a later indictment.
Rove has already made at least three grand jury appearances and his return at this late stage in the investigation is unusual.
The prosecutor did not give Rove similar warnings before his earlier grand jury appearances.
Exactly. Nobody's been leaking except the "other" side.
The rumors are that 22 people will be indicted. That's quite a few.
Found this on AP:
Federal prosecutors have accepted an offer from presidential adviser Karl Rove to give 11th-hour testimony in the case of a CIA officer's leaked identity but have warned they cannot guarantee he won't be indicted, according to people directly familiar with the investigation.
The persons, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because of grand jury secrecy, said Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has not made any decision yet on whether to file criminal charges against the longtime confidant of President Bush or others.
The U.S. attorney's manual requires prosecutors not to bring witnesses before a grand jury if there is a possibility of future criminal charges unless they are notified in advance that their grand jury testimony can be used against them in a later indictment.
Rove has already made at least three grand jury appearances and his return at this late stage in the investigation is unusual.
The prosecutor did not give Rove similar warnings before his earlier grand jury appearances.
Not quite the same.
Susan McDougal was sent to jail in September 1996, following her refusal to reply to the order of a federal judge that she answer prosecutors' questions in a grand jury regarding Clinton and Whitewater.
Where do you think they're getting that information?
IF it happened, it would be a 22 count indictment, not 22 people are being charged. The Lib Bloggers are delusional.
Miller was "not a target", but really, she was and that's because of that old New York Times case where she and Fitzgerald have some "history" because she supposedly tipped off some terrorists.
It may come down to that there was some "he said, she said" and Rove's lawyers (correctly) believe that the grand jury will be more likely to believe his side of the story if it's fresh in their minds as opposed to a distant memory.
That may be because they're the side with something to leak. I'd like to see some leaks pointing the other way but either there's nothing there or every single one of our guys is just as virtuous as the driven snow.
Thank you for the sanity...My guess is that we're all a little nervous because we don't want our guys to turn out to be criminals just like the guys on the other side. I believe that Karl Rove is too smart to just drop someone's name for revenge and endanger spies around the world. He's not a Clintonista, for God's sake. He actually cares about national security. Besides, didn't Rove claim that he got her name from a reporter? Maybe he's just going to clear up some stuff...like supply some names and dates...the media loves this story because they can spin it so that it sounds like an Italian opera instead of just an everyday tale of political maneuvering and manipulation on the Democrat's part.
Karl Rove and George Bush have survived just fine by saying little and letting the Chicken Littles of the media world spin themselves into a tizzy....think Election 2000, National Guard memos, and Katrina. The media are just drama queens without the Oprah touch.
Thank you for the sanity...My guess is that we're all a little nervous because we don't want our guys to turn out to be criminals just like the guys on the other side. I believe that Karl Rove is too smart to just drop someone's name for revenge and endanger spies around the world. He's not a Clintonista, for God's sake. He actually cares about national security. Besides, didn't Rove claim that he got her name from a reporter? Maybe he's just going to clear up some stuff...like supply some names and dates...the media loves this story because they can spin it so that it sounds like an Italian opera instead of just an everyday tale of political maneuvering and manipulation on the Democrat's part.
Karl Rove and George Bush have survived just fine by saying little and letting the Chicken Littles of the media world spin themselves into a tizzy....think Election 2000, National Guard memos, and Katrina. The media are just drama queens without the Oprah touch.
Uh, wouldn't the right thing to do be to see what the outcome of the grand jury is FIRST???
They can't
But there can be indictments for lying ... and that could include reporters that testified
I'm listening to a local guy, Mark Larsen in San Diego. He just interview Molly Henneberg (FOX) re the Rove testimony. She said that when a person is the target of an investigation by the DOJ, they receive a letter stating such. She said that Rove's office says they have never received any such letter .. indicating to her that Rove has just volunteered to testify for his own purposes, not because he's been compelled as the target of an investigation.
Thought you all would like to know this.
Looks like a delaying tactic to me. Like, White House fears indictment in the same week the base is upset about Miers. So Karl asks to testify again, to delay action until "a better time."
That's what I think, too.
Rove volunteered in July. Fitz just took him up on it--after getting a bunch more statements from others. The MSM and DUers are going to be very disappointed...
Another reason for Karl fourth visit being a delaying tactic.
Been in and out all day and was freeped to your thread....
WOW...haven't had time to read the thread...please tell me that Rove isn't going down...
President Bush does NOT need this...that man has had WAY too much...
And then to hear how LITTLE Clinton did by Louis Freeh?
Can we retroactivley impeach Clinton????
22 has been going around their circle-jerk sites.
The AP says "anonymous sources" close to the grand jury. Remember the old days when being on a grand jury meant something? Now it's leaks about the leaks.
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