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To: RockinRight; areafiftyone; Gipper08; Corin Stormhands

You guys do realize that congressmen as well vote on lots of little amednemnts that can be twisted and turned around so before you run off beating your chests to Pence remember that he has his fair share of votes you could go digging into to twist around. He's been in office just as long as Allen. The problem with all these Allen bashers is they expect him to be perfect 100% of the time and when it seems like he messes up they pounce on him and scream he's unqualified for the job. Of course nobody cares about the fact that Pence caved last week to house GOP leaders and turned tail at the Young America's speaking this by running off praising them and not taking Q&A's since he knew they'd be asking about it.


47 posted on 10/06/2005 7:41:33 AM PDT by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP

By 'them' i mean the house leaders


49 posted on 10/06/2005 7:45:19 AM PDT by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP

Has Pence been perfect? No. However-he has spoken out against the GOPs recent turn to Democrat-lite spendthrifts. And done something about it. Allen has not.

Allen is better than Romney, or Giuliani, but he hasn't really shown any real commitment to conservatism. He's less socially conservative than Bush, perhaps slightly better fiscally but not what we really need.


52 posted on 10/06/2005 7:50:06 AM PDT by RockinRight (Why are there so many RINOs?)
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To: SDGOP; Corin Stormhands; RockinRight

WOW! you believed Dana Milbank and the Washington Post?????
Pence did not cave.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/04/AR2005100401540.html


Fiscal Hawks Haven't Surrendered



Wednesday, October 5, 2005; Page A22

In my role as chairman of the Republican Study Committee, I have led an effort to raise the issue of fiscal responsibility in connection with congressional spending for Hurricane Katrina relief.

Last month House conservatives launched "Operation Offset," an aggressive effort to suggest budget cuts to offset the cost of this unprecedented public endeavor, and it was in this context that I spoke to the Young America's Foundation in Washington on Sept. 26. In my address, I reiterated my call for fiscal discipline in Katrina relief, and I repeated the challenge that I first leveled at the Republican Party in 2004, calling for the repeal of the prescription drug entitlement and the No Child Left Behind Act.


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It was against this backdrop that I read Dana Milbank's Sept. 27 Washington Sketch column, "Deep Pockets, Small Government and the Man in the Middle." It said that my speech signaled that "fiscal hawks surrendered" and that our "caucus lost its nerve." That ignored the balance of my speech. Mr. Milbank used my comments expressing confidence in the "integrity and principle" of the Republican leadership in Congress to support the conclusion that House conservatives were in retreat. This conclusion is clearly refuted when these remarks are placed in the context of the address and by subsequent events.

I and other House conservatives have been advocating Operation Offset from the airwaves to the floor of Congress. We also have held numerous discussions with the White House and congressional leaders about the substance of our proposals. As the text of my remarks and the public record reflects, Mr. Milbank's column was inaccurate.

MIKE PENCE

U.S. Representative (R-Ind.)


57 posted on 10/06/2005 7:57:35 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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