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Bubba: Iraq war's 'a quagmire' [the odds are not great of our prevailing there," Clinton..
New York Daily News ^

Posted on 10/06/2005 3:39:14 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Bubba: Iraq war's 'a quagmire'

BY KENNETH R. BAZINET DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

Former President Clinton worries for the mission in Iraq. WASHINGTON - Former President Bill Clinton says Iraq "looks like a quagmire," and estimates "the odds are not great of our prevailing there."

But, speaking for an interview that appears in the November issue of Ladies Home Journal, Clinton qualified his quagmire remark by saying, "It's not Vietnam."

"The reason this is not Vietnam is that 58% of the eligible voters showed up and voted in Iraq," Clinton told the magazine. The South Vietnamese government was "never legitimate" in the eyes of the Vietnamese, he said.

The former President, who has teamed up with President Bush's father to raise money for victims of Hurricane Katrina and last December's Indian Ocean tsunami, said the key to success is getting the Iraqis to defend themselves against the insurgents.

"Having said that, it could go wrong," Clinton admitted. "Since the end of World War II, the only major foreign power that succeeded in putting down an insurgency was the British putting down the Malay insurgency, but the British stayed 15 years.

"So you can say for historical reasons, the odds are not great of our prevailing there," Clinton pointed out.

Clinton's spokesman told the Daily News yesterday his boss remains staunchly committed to a U.S. victory in Iraq.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


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thanks Bill....now go call Monica....
1 posted on 10/06/2005 3:39:16 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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""The reason this is not Vietnam is that 58% of the eligible voters showed up and voted in Iraq," Clinton told the magazine. The South Vietnamese government was "never legitimate" in the eyes of the Vietnamese, he said."

Still rationalizing his Draft Dodging status, I see.


2 posted on 10/06/2005 3:42:36 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Sub-Driver

The idea is to get Iraq to the point where they can and will clean their own toilet, not for us to clean it for them once and for all.


3 posted on 10/06/2005 3:42:47 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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Yeah, we should just quit like you did in Somalia. Yeah, that made things much better, didn't it?
4 posted on 10/06/2005 3:43:31 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Sub-Driver

US troops remain in Bosnia ... and that is NOT a quagmire?


5 posted on 10/06/2005 3:47:55 AM PDT by jamaksin
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To: Sub-Driver
But, speaking for an interview that appears in the November issue of Ladies Home Journal, Clinton qualified his quagmire remark by saying, "It's not Vietnam."

Snort. So what exactly is his position? No wonder he gave the interview to LHJ.

6 posted on 10/06/2005 3:48:34 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Sub-Driver
Ahhhh, Bill, have we still got any troops in the Balkans?

Has that issue been resolved or is it a quagmire waiting to explode?
7 posted on 10/06/2005 3:48:38 AM PDT by PeteB570
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"The reason this is not Vietnam is that 58% of the eligible voters showed up and voted in Iraq," Clinton told the magazine.

And how about the fact that so many of the so-called insurgents are really foreign imports, Bubba? That kinda croaks the comparison, too, don' it?

8 posted on 10/06/2005 3:51:05 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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Clinton should start following what is going on there beyond the frontpage of the NY Times.

The blogs are leading the charge on this (again). The fighting that recently ended in the north and is now going on in the west is the beginning of the end for the terrorists.

Zarqawi has gone so far as to start sending guys home from Iraq. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495221/posts

Some suggested reading for the former president:
http://www.billroggio.com
http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/
http://www.rantburg.com
http://dailyterroristroundup.blogspot.com/
http://windsofchange.net/


9 posted on 10/06/2005 3:54:24 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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Elder Bushes need to smarm a little more with Clinton. Not a word of dissent from them. Really plays well with the masses.


10 posted on 10/06/2005 3:55:35 AM PDT by cynicom
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Lady's Home Journal...

That bastion of hard hitting international news and commentary.

What... was Katie Couric too busy?

Bill Clinton is a Quagmire.

11 posted on 10/06/2005 3:56:48 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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Seems like it must be time for a big

STFU!!!

and just go away.

12 posted on 10/06/2005 3:59:33 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm just sitting here on the Group W bench.)
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To: jamaksin

Maybe we should spend more time calling attention to Bosnia. And just maybe we should get used to the fact that fighting terror is a world wide war and it won't be over in a week.


13 posted on 10/06/2005 4:04:55 AM PDT by dalebert
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re :The idea is to get Iraq to the point where they can and will clean their own toilet, not for us to clean it for them once and for all.

Iraquisation similar to the old vietnamisation policy.

14 posted on 10/06/2005 4:07:21 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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The Vietnamese are sure enjoying their free elections under the communists (sarcasm off) thanks to Clinton and his ilk. Liberals are despicable people. Millions killed, concentration camps, boat people, despotism, poverty - and to the liberals the Southeast Asians are just happy as pie and will be so long as they have communist masters.


15 posted on 10/06/2005 4:11:22 AM PDT by Williams
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RE :Yeah, we should just quit like you did in Somalia. Yeah, that made things much better, didn't it?.

The exit strategy today is different to what it was last year and can change again.

It was originally to not leave until we had a viable working Iraq democracy. Now its to leave when the Iraqis can maintain order.

Whose to say it wont change again.

According to the Pentagon latest the Iraq military have only one battalion capable of operating without US support.

16 posted on 10/06/2005 4:12:52 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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Maybe we should spend more time calling attention to Bosnia

My thoughts exactly. Whenever you have a situation with hundreds (or thousands) of years of animosity, coupled with the corrosive influence of Islam, 'our odds of prevailing there are not that great'. It's not a failure of Bush or even of Bubba;, it's just a fact. They're gonna kill one another and put burkas on the women, with us or without us. It's really a shame. But I'm still proud that we're making things better for them, for as long as we can stay the course.

17 posted on 10/06/2005 4:14:34 AM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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I saw Bill on TV yesterday...he looked skinny, haggard, and just terrible! I thought, Bill can't escape justice from above...


18 posted on 10/06/2005 4:15:55 AM PDT by aaronbeth (Our freedom was won from the barrel of a gun.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bill's a talking head for his wife, saying the things she can't or won't. Cleaver


19 posted on 10/06/2005 4:19:29 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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Can't the nation get a restraining order against this idiot?


20 posted on 10/06/2005 4:19:47 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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