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To: Howlin

Hi Howlin, Glad to see you! (o: I'm in the progress of working up a detailed and referenced summary of what we know so far, but I'll try sum most of it up in a few quick sentences if I can... (those who know me will laugh heartily at that statement (o;)

First, the MSM is following the AP and Official Story as well as keeping the lid on things for the most part - Several local media outlets are not buying the official line and have done their own in-depth reporting. Channel 9 and Channel 4 in particular are doing a better job than ANY of the other channels/papers. Agencies investigating are reported as: Homeland Security, Joint Terrorism Task Force, FBI, Norman and OU PD, ATFE (BATF). FBI has officially taken the lead in this investigation although they are not releasing details at this time.

1.) Someone set off a bomb sometime between 7:20 and 8pm outside the OU/Kansas State game on Oct. 1, 2005. There are discrepancies on the exact time and we are working on getting a definitive time right now.

2.) One person reportedly killed. He has tenatively* been identified as Joel Henry Hinrichs III of Colorado Springs, a student at OU. Although his father and the MSM media (AP) and one local channel (ch.5) maintain he was not associated with muslims he was living with a Pakistani roommate (more on him later...). Boren (OU Pres.), FBI and others are trying to play this off as an "isolated incident" and a suicide by a "mentally unstable" young man. Connecting the dots in this story does NOT lead to that conclusion by any sense.

It is reported that Mr. Hinrichs had a ticket to the game and attempted to enter the stadium (containing approx. 84000 people) with a backpack through at least 2 gates before running away when asked to allow a search of his bag. He then went and sat at a bench by the bus loading area. Some reports state he was taking stuff out of his backpack and trying to put it on his person or fiddling with it somehow and it went off. Seeing as there was a large amount of explosives found in his apartment (see below) it might be assumed that this was an "accident" of some sort and he probably didn't mean to be killed...

(* After reports of his identity and comments from his family were obtained by various media outlets in CO and OK they are now saying that there must be DNA testing and it could take a while.)

3.) Five other reported injured and then the 5 injured "disappeared" from the reporting. (5 "accomplices" re-surfaced in reporting tonight - reporter says may have been involved with the bombing or taking stuff out of suspected "suicide's" apartment.)

4.) Police responding with bomb squad found and detonated a second package containing what is now said to have contained materials or "parts" of a bomb. This was originally reported as a second device by authorities.

5.) FBI cleared out apartment building and such and hauled away explosives deemed very volatile and exploded them on the local PDs test range before notifying others. People report hearing that explosion some 4-5 miles from the range. Also found in the apartment was Islamic papers and such.

6.) The device used and presumably stuff detonated the next day were TATP - "mother of satan" is the name the Islamic Jihadists call it. Very volatile substance.

7.) Roommate of Joel Hinrichs is named Fazal M. Cheema and is reportedly MIA at this time. There were reports he was brought back in for questioning and then released back to his apartment but this has been reported as not accurate. Reports state that an airline ticket belonging to this person for a date in the future was for a trip to Algeria.

8.) There are reports of Joel being seen at a local mosque on numerous occassions (Ch.9 or 4 reported this - can't remember which off-hand - doing this summary from memory).

9.) Hinrichs attempted to buy Ammonium Nitrate several days before the blast at the local feed store. One report said an undercover police officer was reportedly there and got a license plate number, and one report I saw said the owner of the store called the FBI.

Suffice to say that most of us who have been following this story agree that it stinks to high heaven as far as the "official line" goes. This is especially true considering the history of Norman, OK, OKC, OU, and the presence of Hamas and Al Qaeda groups which are known to law enforcement. (Massoui(SP?), Nick Berg, et al...)

Early reports that couldn't be relied upon (verboten site to FR) are now being confirmed and reported in bits and pieces by local media as well.

Probably the most remarkable thing about all of this is the lack of coverge in the MSM nationwide. Fox originally broke the story and then pulled it. A google search of news showed only 300 or so articles the other day vs. over 6,000 for Bali and over 1600 for the NY boating accident which took place on the 2nd.

There is probably more I'm forgetting at this point - it's late and I've got to bed after this post (In-laws dropping by tomorrow)... I apologize if I've left anything crucial out.

To get caught up on Eyewitness reports you may wish to scan through for posts from PhiKapMom - she was there and has a lot of relevant information. Rte66 has done some excellent background searching, as well as a couple of other FReepers whose contributions have been tremendous and whose name I can't recall offhand - SORRY!

You may also wish to freepmail indcons and ask to be put on the "Norman Bombing" ping list the two of them have going. Cindy also has a nice collection of updated links in this thread and FReeper Backhoe earlier today posted a compilation thread. (Search their "in forum" link from their profile pages is probably the best way to find the threads.)

I'll ping you to my detailed summary once completed... it's taking me longer than I thought, but I'll try best I can to tie this altogether in one big article that's a little easier to follow.

Thanks for stopping by Howlin' (o:
Take care,
LR


4,457 posted on 10/06/2005 2:19:48 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: indcons; PhiKapMom; Rte66; Cindy; All

Short and sweet "semi-summary" posted right above this - no links referenced though. FReeper Howlin' stopped by and requested a Cliff Notes version. (o: I wrote it up pretty quickly from memory and I'm about to fall asleep here so I'm sure I probably left out a few important details. Please add to this if you wish... (o:


4,458 posted on 10/06/2005 2:27:07 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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Forgot probably the most important part of the link to Middle Easterners...

PhiKapMom reported overhearing the girlfriend of her son's frat brother being questioned by police shortly after the game (which she attended). The boy's face was red on one side from the explosion and the girl (a Persian Iranian) reported seeing 2 Middle Eastern men running from the area immediately after the explosion.

OK, now I'm off to bed!


4,459 posted on 10/06/2005 2:35:55 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks; Howlin

Thanks for the summary to keep me up to date and thanks to Howlin for asking. I don't see anything new since yesterday. Truly the MSM+Drudge avoidance of the story is the most amazing thing about it. Our first USA Muslim-connected suicide bomber and no one is talking about it.


4,527 posted on 10/06/2005 11:20:18 PM PDT by Yaelle
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