Bomb Blast at University of Oklahoma (Breaking on Fox)

Why...why....why...I sense some doubt in your assessment of the story as provided by the News-hiders. Fie on Thee oh ye of little faith!

4,301 posted on 10/04/2005 9:21:53 PM PDT by Rockpile

To: All; PhiKapMom

Okay, folks. This story has quite a bit of credible info going for it. PhiKapMom and I are starting a ping list for thise of you who are interested in getting more info on the Norman suicide bombing. FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list.

4,302 posted on 10/04/2005 9:24:28 PM PDT by indcons (FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list.)

IMHO, if this was a jihadist attack we are all going to know before this weekend's football games. There are too many LE that know what's going on not to have a leak soon and if one kid gets killed this weekend at a high school, college or NFL game somebody's gonna have to answer to a lot of angry Americans.

4,303 posted on 10/04/2005 9:25:36 PM PDT by not2worry (What goes around comes around!)

I am new here and have tried to read all the posts but there are just so many so please forgive me if I repeat anything.

I too am very perplexed over this whole mess. Michael Savage is not even covering this story which I find wacked.

I would also like to say that while some illegal muslims are coming through the porous borders of Mexico, there are many more coming through Canada. I am an immig. paralegal & I see it all & can tell you, illegal MEs are walking in from the north - into MA, NY and filtering into Chicago, Atlanta, Tampa, Miami and so on. And college campuses are filled with F-1 students from the ME. College campuses are the perfect spot for these Islamic facists. Look at Al Arian from Tampa.

Oh, these sleepers are waiting, biding their time. This bombing is the first in a string to come. No proof for that statement - just gut feeling. This was no "single" event. It was a warning and no one is listening.

This country is asleep. I wonder whose driving?

4,304 posted on 10/04/2005 9:26:49 PM PDT by immigration lady (eliminate the ACLU under the Rico Statutes)

To: Fitzcarraldo

4,305 posted on 10/04/2005 9:27:01 PM PDT by krunkygirl

4,306 posted on 10/04/2005 9:28:48 PM PDT by krunkygirl

thanks for the ping - keep me on your update list!

4,307 posted on 10/04/2005 9:35:10 PM PDT by bitt (THE PRESIDENT: "Ask the pollsters. My job is to lead and to solve problems. ")

ping me please - Thanks!!

4,308 posted on 10/04/2005 9:38:57 PM PDT by immigration lady (eliminate the ACLU under the Rico Statutes)

Without jumping ahead, I am back on the post of yours that I'm replying to here. You asked about the mother. I have been off for a couple of hours trying to track down the family units.

No divorce in CO that I can find and their online records are current to present. I have worked with those a lot. At most, they might be a few months behind. If they got a Vegas divorce, those aren't online yet.

Her name is Elaine, middle initial B. In 1999, they bought the house on Hackamore in Colorado Springs, taking out a few seconds over the next couple of years, but oddly enough, paying one off, instead of taking out a new one, in Sept 2002, when JoelIII would have been entering OU as a frosh.

Wife stays on the mortgage papers all the way through till present and hasn't quitclaimed or transferred anything. The house is 7500 sq. ft. and valued at a low tax value of around $160,000. (Cheap market.)

None of the family has shown up in any civil or criminal court records in CO, unless it's one of the other two brothers whose first names I haven't been able to conjure up yet.

Dad JoelJr. started a small software company early this year at his home address (although using the "Suite #100 euphemism ploy to make it seem like an office), named CrowdSystems Corp., which has a website. His is the only name on the incorporation articles (no wife's name, either, which sometimes is included), but another man is named as the CEO on the website and JoeJr. calls himself CTO. I haven't looked him up. There is also a woman's email included for the company, Ruth, no last name.

Also odd for such a very small company (they say so themselves) is that he bothered to incorporate it in Delaware, which seems a bit much.

Of the three sons and two daughters, siblings of JoelIII's, one sister and one brother have spoken to the press. Sister is Berkeley Hinrichs, who lives in Urbana, IL, and is a professional Spanish interpreter. She has a small company there, BH Translations. I believe she is 29, but I can't yet confirm that.

The brother who spoke was Tom Hinrichs, who I believe to be Thomas C., who apparently lives in Calif., or has previously, the only other residence I show for him besides Colorado Springs. I also need to double confirm his age, if 25 or 28.

There seems to also be daughter/sister named Elaine, like the mom, who is 29, same as Berkeley (twins?). But I want to find two sources for these details before saying them as fact.

The dad is a Letters to the Editor writer to some extent and has spoken out in such fashion to his CO Springs newspaper against Ward Churchill. (Is Dad a FReeper, lol?) They are apparently Lutheran by faith, as dad has written a LTE of the national Lutheran magazine, concerning gay rights. I'd have to post it because I can't make sense of what he really thinks, except he's against them.

Let's see. If something else has come out between these posts, I haven't seen it yet, so newer news should prevail.

FWIW, I found someone of perhaps Paki extraction who either lives with or formerly lived at the next door neighbor Rumao Wang, quoted in an OU Daily article. The listing I found for the ME name at 506-C SoonerDr. is undated, but has the same phone number as Wang. Maybe the University still does that--has a Univ phone number in each room that stays with it. They did that all those many years ago when I was there. Or, maybe this person lives with Wang and shares the phone. Oh, heck, maybe they're even married.

If I have more, I'll post later--need to catch up here.

4,309 posted on 10/04/2005 9:55:38 PM PDT by Rte66

RTE. I am not familiar with OK. public records laws. You might try doing a search in the tax assesor/ property appraisers records to find the property owner of record. You could also search the Public records of the courthouse to find if there is any civil or non-felony criminal records for Hinrichs. Public records should also show if he was involved in any property transactions.

I have done 2/3rds of that suggestion and "nada". There is one more thing I haven't done yet and will report findings when I have.

4,310 posted on 10/04/2005 10:00:55 PM PDT by Rte66

To: immigration lady

"This country is asleep. I wonder whose driving?"

OK, tell us the truth. Do you work for the DNC, moveon.org, or a Democrat senator?

4,311 posted on 10/04/2005 10:18:51 PM PDT by carl in alaska (There seems to be increased infiltration by DNC trolls lately.)

To: immigration lady

I'm afraid you fit the pattern of DNC trolls. You're already indirectly bashing the Bush Admin in your first hours at FR.

4,312 posted on 10/04/2005 10:21:37 PM PDT by carl in alaska (There seems to be increased infiltration by DNC trolls lately.)

To: immigration lady

Oh, these sleepers are waiting, biding their time. This bombing is the first in a string to come.

If Hinrichs had the muzzie beard back in 2002, and then shaved it off, I'd say he spent the last three years going on with his life while waiting to receive orders and be activated. I'd say the most recent AQ videotape with the American convert was the signal to other American recruits to begin carrying out their missions. So I fear other "depressed" people will be "committing suicide" in the near future.

Maybe Dr. Phil can have a talk with these depressed people and get them to feel better about themselves. /sarc

4,313 posted on 10/04/2005 10:23:29 PM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)

To: carl in alaska

She's attacking him over immigration policy, which seems to be fairly common practice among the conservatives I know. She doesn't look like a lib'hurl troll to me at this point, time will tell.

4,314 posted on 10/04/2005 10:39:55 PM PDT by Ain Soph Aur

To: Ain Soph Aur

Her screen name fits the pattern of a troll but as you say, time will tell.

4,315 posted on 10/04/2005 10:44:00 PM PDT by carl in alaska (There seems to be increased infiltration by DNC trolls lately.)

Could you add my name, please? Thanks!

4,316 posted on 10/04/2005 10:53:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)

To: texasbluebell

Thanks Tex. I appreciate the heads up.

Nam Vet

4,317 posted on 10/04/2005 10:54:47 PM PDT by Nam Vet (Don't imagine you can change a dedicated liberal-unless he's in diapers.)

To: hoosiermama; hispanarepublicana; PhiKapMom; mplsconservative; investigateworld; ...

4,318 posted on 10/04/2005 10:57:17 PM PDT by indcons (FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list.)

To: little jeremiah

Done, little jeremiah.

4,319 posted on 10/04/2005 10:58:09 PM PDT by indcons (FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list.)

Her 15 minutes of fame expired some time ago so she really needs something like this. :>)

4,320 posted on 10/04/2005 11:01:28 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA))

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