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For Siena, glass is completely empty (No drinking ANYTHING in any public area on campus)
Times Union ^ | 9-28-2005 | KENNETH AARON,

Posted on 09/28/2005 8:04:21 AM PDT by Cagey

COLONIE -- There's a new drinking policy at Siena College.

No drinking.

Of anything.

Even water. Or iced tea. Or coffee, Red Bull or lemonade. Or vodka or beer, for that matter, in case anybody gets any bright ideas.

According to a policy dated Sept. 17, students are "no longer allowed to consume alcohol or any other beverage in any type of container outside of their townhouse or in any public area on campus."

College officials maintain the rule is meant to increase security after a spate of off-campus party crashers showed up early this semester, and police responded to noisy gatherings outside student apartments. Some outsiders were arrested for burglarizing apartments during those parties, using the hurly-burly for cover.

Because students weren't abiding by campus rules to register all outside guests, officials decided they had to crack down to reduce the gatherings. "Safety first, that's what it's all about," Siena spokeswoman Janet Gianopoulos said.

But does the new policy also mean a person who buys a Pepsi in a vending machine on the Loudonville campus and opens it on one of the lush quads is breaking the rules?

Yes, Gianopoulos said. But they can crack open that drink once they reach their residence, she added.

And people would be able to buy beverages and consume them in dining halls, she said, as well as at school-sanctioned events.

According to an e-mail obtained by the Times Union, Siena officials don't plan on citing offenders for every little violation. But on nights and weekends, RAs may require students to empty their containers no matter what's in them.

Gianopoulos reported the policy is being adhered to. She said campus security officers had asked a few people -- who belonged on campus -- to take their cups and move inside last weekend.

Not everybody's thrilled with the restrictions: A cartoon in the Sept. 22 Promethean, the student newspaper, shows a person engulfed in flames begging for water. "And get caught with an open container?" an observer says. "What're you, stupid?"

Interviews with Siena students indicated that not everybody was familiar with the policy. A handful of students walking around campus with drinks either hadn't heard of the new rule or said they weren't afraid of it; some said they knew of others forced to dump beverages by authorities, but hadn't lost liquids themselves.

One, who requested anonymity for fear of reprisal, said his residence assistant announced the changes during a dorm meeting and pointed to people holding colas and water. They're verboten outside of dorm rooms, he was told, and would result in getting written up.

Another, sophomore Michael Carr, said he saw somebody told to empty a Starbucks coffee outside a dorm.

He was later questioned about the contents of his Poland Spring bottle. "I was a little annoyed," he said. "I thought that was a little stupid."

Like many students, Carr acknowledged that the early semester partying got out of hand and he was happy to see administrators cracking down on bad behavior.

But the no-beverages-in-public policy seemed to go a bit far, he said. Some who keep tabs on student alcohol abuse said that the restrictions went deeper than any others rules they'd seen. Gianopoulos said officials may revisit their decision at some point. The campus is a welcoming place, she said, but added, "We do not welcome activity such as the ones which occurred earlier this semester."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
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To: Cagey
Being a recent college grad myself, I know that the one accessory that most students have is a water bottle somewhere on their person. Whether it's bottled water in their backpack, or a Nalgene bottle hanging off of the back, college students are veritable camels. And really, it's necessary, because college students typically also do a lot of walking and are bound to get thirsty.

Just ban the people from the campus instead. I'm sure that will cure all of the problems.
21 posted on 09/28/2005 9:18:18 AM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Cagey

Give new meaning to doing Coke.


22 posted on 09/28/2005 9:19:36 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: Cagey

One can only hope that the students have a healthy disrespect for authority.


23 posted on 09/28/2005 9:19:40 AM PDT by zook
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To: LongElegantLegs
Apparently, you can use an insulin syringe to inject vodka into frozen oranges...

Insulin syringes are little tiny 1cc ones with 30 gauge needles. I want a horse tranquilizer syringe for my oranges.

24 posted on 09/28/2005 9:20:58 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (We need a strict constructionist - not someone who plays shadow puppet theater with the Constitution)
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To: All
Talk about your stupid, knee jerk reactions, This one is really dumb.
25 posted on 09/28/2005 9:22:11 AM PDT by Old Seadog (Birthdays start out being fun. But too many of them will kill you..)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"When beverages are outlawed....only outlaws will consume beverages."

They can have my bottled water when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers."


26 posted on 09/28/2005 9:22:14 AM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: BUDDYCAT

Class of '81 here and yeah, in those days them Friars could really drink!


27 posted on 09/28/2005 9:34:23 AM PDT by 12GA
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