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Rough Road: Republicans should be worried about their White House prospects for 2008.
Weekly Standard ^ | 9/28/05 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 09/28/2005 2:47:53 AM PDT by Crackingham

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1 posted on 09/28/2005 2:47:53 AM PDT by Crackingham
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This guy thinks McCain is going to get my nomination?

No wonder he's disillusioned.

2 posted on 09/28/2005 2:52:03 AM PDT by RedBeaconNY (Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
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McShame? Never. He's a kook and a RINO.


3 posted on 09/28/2005 2:52:50 AM PDT by highlymotivated (If American ever falls, a STINKING LIBERAL will be behind it.)
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To: Crackingham

Again, Fred Barnes has a firm understanding of the situation.


4 posted on 09/28/2005 2:54:11 AM PDT by yer gonna put yer eye out (Will quip for food...)
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Will so many volunteers work so hard for McCain or Allen or Giuliani or whoever wins the Republican presidential nomination in 2008? I doubt it.

Giuliani has sufficient name recognition and liberal enough politics to bring in lots of otherwise Rat voters, even without hard nosed campaigning. And that deeply saddens me.

5 posted on 09/28/2005 2:56:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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As the only antidote to the horror of Hillary, Condi WILL run (and win).


6 posted on 09/28/2005 3:00:44 AM PDT by omniscient
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That leaves the Republican party with a lesser field of candidates: McCain, Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, Virginia Senator George Allen, and a few others. All of them have distinct handicaps. McCain's is that many Republican loathe him. Giuliani is a social liberal. Allen and Romney are inexperienced at the national level. Frist has a soft and blurred image.

History shows that governors have better odds of getting into the Presidency than do other politicians. How does Barbour sound out on the issue? The press puns will be endless of course ("Hillary just had a close shave with Barbour").

7 posted on 09/28/2005 3:01:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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Allen and Romney are inexperienced at the national level.

He says that like it's a bad thing. I consider it a feature, not a bug. Easier to come in and clean house when you haven't become accustomed to the grime.

8 posted on 09/28/2005 3:06:28 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (What's taters, precious?)
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As the only antidote to the horror of Hillary, Condi WILL run (and win).

Just keep telling yourself that. She has baseball on her agenda.

9 posted on 09/28/2005 3:08:29 AM PDT by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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So how well known was George W. Bush in September 1997?


10 posted on 09/28/2005 3:11:34 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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Congressional republicans seem to think they can just buy votes like democrats. Personally I'm prepared to vote for a democratic presidential candidate just to see an occasional veto.


11 posted on 09/28/2005 3:13:24 AM PDT by tcostell
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Allen and Romney are inexperienced at the national level.

4 of our 5 last presidents had little to no experience on the national level of politics.

Beltway insiders rarely win elections, at least in recent times, case in point,  John Kerry, Algore, Walter Mondale, et al.

 

12 posted on 09/28/2005 3:14:11 AM PDT by RWR8189 ( Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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That could work.

Of course, SCOTUS nominations could come from the 9th Circus, ACLU-approved.

13 posted on 09/28/2005 3:15:33 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (What's taters, precious?)
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The first time my wife heard George W. Bush was thinking of running it was on the radio and we were in the car, and she turned to me and said she couldn't believe the old man was going to try and run for the presidency after Clinton beat him in 92, and then asked if he could serve one or two terms.

Most people had certaintly never heard of him.


14 posted on 09/28/2005 3:18:03 AM PDT by RWR8189 ( Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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This is such an "I got nuthin'" column, you wonder why Barnes bothered to write it.

The analysis is facile. The list is incomplete. And it's only 2005.

Just because Hillary! has been running for President since 1993 does not mean the Republicans should be following suit. The public will tire of The Beast long before 2008. No Republican wants to suffer a similar fate.

First things first. The 2006 mid-terms loom large. If the Donks want to expend all their time and money worrying about the next election, I say we let them. Further Republican gains in 2006 will make them even more shrill, more desperate, more beholden to the moonbat wing of the party, and push them farther from the main-stream. If somebody had said that George Bush was going to run for President in 1997, 99.9% of people would have wondered why Poppy was going to jump back into that meat-grinder at his advanced age. The only people who are thinking about 2008 now are the Clintonistas, but that will come back to haunt them.

The rough-and-tumble of the Primary process will select the next 'Pubbie candidate. Contrary to the MSM's belief, candidates who emerge from bruising primaries do much better than candidates who are "coronated". A contested primary is one long campaign commercial, with lots of free media and public interest. Sure it costs money, but it raises a lot of money too.

If a candidate wins the nomination early, there are months and months between the end of campaigning and the nominating conventions. Think of how John F'n Kerry languished between the time he sewed up the Democratic nod and the Donk convention in Boston. He was old news by July.

But the candidates who have done well in the last thirty years -- LBJ, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Dukakis (who did far better than he should have), Clinton, and George W. Bush -- all faced tough primary challenges that they beat back in the later stages. OTOH, candidates who had it sewed up early -- Ford, Mondale, GHWB, Dole, Kerry -- flamed out in the Fall. The one candidate in this group who actually won an election, GHWB, won on the strength of Reagan. All the other candidacies were completely devoid of interest and irreversibly stigmatized by the opposition campaign by the time the Fall campaign even got started.

The extreme example of this will be Hillary! 2008!!!. She will be such a known quantity by the Summer of 2008, she will be so negatively painted by all Republicans and the disaffected Donks as well, that nobody will even bother to give her a look. Meanwhile, the young and dynamic forces in the Democrat Party will be relegated to running for the VEEP spot on her losing ticket. It will have been 16 years since a genuine contender was allowed to emerge from the Donk field, and I don't think that party will benefit from the stagnation.

15 posted on 09/28/2005 3:18:52 AM PDT by gridlock (IF YOU'RE NOT CATCHING FLAK, YOU'RE NOT OVER THE TARGET...)
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He has a point in that it'll take a good candidate to win in 2008. Bill Clinton won 2 terms because we ran 2 tired old men against him.


16 posted on 09/28/2005 3:19:39 AM PDT by libertylover (Liberal: A blatant liar who likes to spend other people's money.)
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To: Crackingham

He speaks the truth.


17 posted on 09/28/2005 3:29:27 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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So the Republicans have a weak bench eh?
That must mean ipsofacto that the Dems have a powerhouse line up.
And just who are these giants the dems have lined up?


18 posted on 09/28/2005 3:31:54 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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So how well known was George W. Bush in September 1997?

About as well known as these two Republicans with lots of talent and good image: (former) Representative Christopher Cox and Arizona Senator Jon Kyl. Both should become more prominent.

19 posted on 09/28/2005 3:32:50 AM PDT by NetValue (No enemy has inflicted as much damage on America as liberals.)
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In 1977, Reagan was a parlor-room joke. In 1997, George W. Bush was a complete unknown. In 1965, Nixon was a disconsolate loser.

It's 2005! Why are we even talking about this!

20 posted on 09/28/2005 3:36:38 AM PDT by gridlock (IF YOU'RE NOT CATCHING FLAK, YOU'RE NOT OVER THE TARGET...)
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