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LIVE THREAD: Polish parliamentary elections 2005

Posted on 09/25/2005 9:46:41 AM PDT by Lukasz

Following are profiles of main political parties:

CIVIC PLATFORM (PO) Formed by the liberal wing of the anti-communist Solidarity movement, Civic Platform is the biggest opposition party in the current left-dominated parliament. The party promises tax cuts, deregulation, streamlined bureaucracy, gradual fiscal tightening and more flexible labour laws to spur investment and growth needed to create more jobs. The cornerstone of its economic plan is a single 15-percent personal income, corporate and VAT tax rate. Leaders: Jan Rokita, 46, candidate for prime minister; Donald Tusk, 48, leader and top presidential candidate. Latest ratings: 29-34 percent. Latest results: 2001 parliamentary polls -- 12.7 percent, 2004 European Parliament elections -- 24.1 pct.

LAW AND JUSTICE (PiS) Formed in 2001 by twin brothers Jaroslaw and Lech Kaczynski, conservative Solidarity activists. They say none of the governments of the past 16 years managed to break up the web of informal, often corrupt ties linking the old guard with new business and political elites. The party espouses conservative social values, highlighting the role of family, patriotism and Poland's Christian heritage. It admires the western European welfare state model, promising a stronger safety net for the poor, tax breaks for families and investment incentives. In the run-up to elections PiS courted both the ultra Catholic right by questioning the rights of homosexuals and the traditional leftist electorate. Leaders: Jaroslaw and Lech Kaczynski, 56; Ludwik Dorn, 51 Latest ratings: 29-34 percent, Latest results: 2001 parliamentary polls -- 9.5 percent, 2004 European Parliament elections -- 12.7 percent.

DEMOCRATIC LEFT ALLIANCE (SLD) The current ruling party is the political heir of the once all-powerful communist party. Once led by outgoing President Aleksander Kwasniewski, it transformed itself into the Western-style Social Democrats but never shook off the ex-communist stigma. The SLD's latest spell in power brought Poland into the European Union, but a string of sleaze scandals marred its rule and failure to curb unemployment slashed its 41 percent support in the last elections to single digits. Leaders: Wojciech Olejniczak, 31, Grzegorz Napieralski, 31 Latest ratings: 4-8 percent Latest results: 2001 parliamentary polls -- 41 percent, 2004 European Parliament elections -- 9.4 percent

SELF-DEFENCE The party is a brainchild of former pig farmer Andrzej Lepper, 51, who rose to prominence in the 1990s organising roadblocks to demand higher farm subsidies and defend farmers who, like himself, defaulted on bank loans. The party shot to the top of rankings in the runup to Poland's European Union entry last year but lost ground after Poland's upbeat first year in the bloc. Leaders: Andrzej Lepper, 51 Latest ratings: 8-12 percent Latest results: 2001 parliamentary polls -- 10.2 percent, 2004 European Parliament elections -- 10.8 percent.

LEAGUE OF POLISH FAMILES (LPR) Formed in 2001, the party has opposed Poland's EU membership and says the Polish nation must be defended against the forces of globalisation and international institutions. In overwhelmingly Catholic Poland, the party mainly appeals to ultra-conservative and xenophobic elements in Polish society. Its youth arm, Pan-Polish Youth, has been linked by mainstream media to local skinheads and anti-Semitic incidents. Leaders: Roman Giertych, 34, Maciej Giertych, 69, presidential candidate Latest ratings: 5-11 percent Latest results: 2001 parliamentary polls -- 7.9 percent, 2004 European Parliament elections -- 15.9 percent

Two favorites, PO and PiS will form center-right coalition. Winner will take the PM post.

Last poll (23 Sep):

PiS 33%
PO 28,7%
Samoobrona 10,3%
LPR 8,3%
SLD 7,6%
PSL 5,3%

election threshold: 5%


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; livethread; poland; polishelection
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To: REactor

In my church ( well known cathedral in Gdansk Oliwa) a priest indirectly suggested to vote for PiS.


41 posted on 09/25/2005 12:52:07 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: REactor
How is it nowadays, isn't Radio Maryja disliked by the Catholic church?
42 posted on 09/25/2005 12:54:18 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Lukasz

Yeah, I've heard it. Hurray!


43 posted on 09/25/2005 12:55:11 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol
Yes, it is - keep in mind, that mass-media has been very friendly to PO. So it was en vogue to admit, that one was going to vote for them.

I have a different theory. Many people who supported PO in the surveys were young (25-30) people, not churchgoers, without any strong political convictions, the "Nirvana generation", who might have even considered going to vote, but on the actual day of voting they just, well... didn't feel like going anywhere:) The example of my sister and my brother-in-law is very telling: only two days before I asked them if they were going to vote. They said maybe, and that if they would vote they would certainly vote PO. Today I phoned them and asked whether they voted: the did not of course. They spent the whole day watching movies on DVD. What a shame.

44 posted on 09/25/2005 12:55:24 PM PDT by REactor
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To: REactor
Don't exaggerate.

I'm a PO supporter, and I don't consider myself as "a lukewarm Catholic".
Same applies to my wife, and many of my friends.
45 posted on 09/25/2005 12:58:22 PM PDT by lizol
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To: REactor

I think that you are right.


46 posted on 09/25/2005 1:01:44 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: All
Polls for Senate:


47 posted on 09/25/2005 1:04:15 PM PDT by Lukasz
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TVN 24 exit-poll relating to the presidential election -
1st round - Tusk - 45%, Kaczynski - 33%
2nd round - Tusk - 57%, Kaczynski - 43%

52% don't want to have twin brothers as the prime minister and the president.
48 posted on 09/25/2005 1:05:30 PM PDT by lizol
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To: AdmSmith
How is it nowadays, isn't Radio Maryja disliked by the Catholic church?

It is disliked by most of the hierarchy and the "liberal" Catholics. But it has still some supporters among the traditionalist bishops and many among the elderly, poor, very religious, anti-European and (to some extent) anti-Jewish part of the population. Radio Maryja was condemned by some of the bihops (like Lublin's Archbishop Zycinski), but Radio is owned by the Redemptorist Order, and Orders are highly independent from the local bishops.

49 posted on 09/25/2005 1:08:36 PM PDT by REactor
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To: lizol

I wrote "great part". I don't consider myself to be lukewarm too, but you can't deny that PO never underlined religion as one of their themes. PO is more or less neutral on religious matters.


50 posted on 09/25/2005 1:15:41 PM PDT by REactor
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To: Lukasz

I'd have voted CIVIC PLATFORM (PO)


51 posted on 09/25/2005 1:19:01 PM PDT by alessandrofiaschi (Is Roberts really a conservative?)
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To: Lukasz

My to PO!


52 posted on 09/25/2005 1:21:03 PM PDT by alessandrofiaschi (Is Roberts really a conservative?)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Nice to hear it. How is Berlusconi doing? I am a fan of his.


53 posted on 09/25/2005 1:28:26 PM PDT by REactor
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To: lizol; Lukasz; All

"Let’s deal with it one by one. One PO and PIS will form coalition we just have to wait and see whom is going scratch their back, you know what I mean. Question is how this respond to our situation will; of fore dos coalition will be form we should know everything by Wednesday. I stood by for PO and I will vote for Tusk and I voted for PO. If you think about it prawica has total 54% that means a basic majority. Lets be patient and see how this plays out.."




A tak po naszemu bo lepiej, jakby niebylo to sie wszystko niedlugo okaze. Nie wstawiajcie bram dopuki sa nie postawione. W uznaleznieniu istoty polozenia jest pewien kwest. Zobaczymy jaki bedzie, dlatego prosze was, o zrozumienie pewnego czastku rozrgywki, zwiazek miedzy PO i PIS bedzie musial bydz ztworzony ze wzgledu na fakt, iz prawica otrzymala wiecej glosow i koalicja musi byc zformulowana. Wtej wiekszosci bedzie mozna przedstawic radykalne zmiany w rzadzie a takze w prawach polityczno-ekonomicznych, ktore so integralna czescia naszej polityki. No dobra rozpisalam sie, przepraszam ale jestem zadowolona zescie glosowali i wkoncu kopnelismy komunistow na srebrzysko. Lukasz tak poza tym, czleku ty jestes kolo mnie, jak kamieniem rzucic, mam rodzine na Oliwie w Gdansku, ktoregos dnia musimy sobie pogadac. Wpadnij na Witawe. No dobra Bog zaplac. Trzymajcie sie/ albo po szybkiemu trzymta sie. Kurcze czciaki mu uciekaja, napisalam wszystko po naszemu i widze ze mi wszystko ucieklo. Jezeli so jakies bledy to mnie poprawcie.


54 posted on 09/25/2005 1:36:52 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("The wisdom of the wise and the experience of ages-Isaac Disraeli -Dalet - Hei - Vav")
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To: Lukasz

VICTORY !
55 posted on 09/25/2005 2:07:12 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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Dla was http://www.wprost.pl/wyboryparlamentarne2005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Wyniki wyborów parlamentarnych
Frekwencja 40,36

Rozkład głosów

Liga Polskich Rodzin
Liga Polskich Rodzin

 

8%

Partia Demokratyczna
Partia Demokratyczna

 

2%

Platforma Obywatelska
Platforma Obywatelska

 

26%

Polskie Stronnictwo Ludowe
Polskie Stronnictwo Ludowe

 

5%

Prawo i Sprawiedliwość
Prawo i Sprawiedliwość

 

28%

Samoobrona
Samoobrona

 

10%

Socjaldemokracja Polska
Socjaldemokracja Polska

 

3%

Sojusz Lewicy Demokratycznej
Sojusz Lewicy Demokratycznej

 

10%

 

Rozkład mandatów

Liga Polskich Rodzin
Liga Polskich Rodzin

 

7.4% (mandatów: 34)

Platforma Obywatelska
Platforma Obywatelska

 

31.8% (mandatów: 146)

Polskie Stronnictwo Ludowe
Polskie Stronnictwo Ludowe

 

4.1% (mandatów: 19)

Prawo i Sprawiedliwość
Prawo i Sprawiedliwość

 

34.4% (mandatów: 158)

Samoobrona
Samoobrona

 

10.2% (mandatów: 47)

Sojusz Lewicy Demokratycznej
Sojusz Lewicy Demokratycznej

 

12% (mandatów: 55)

Źródło: GfK Polonia dla TVN i TVN24, 25 wrzesnia 2005, 20:26

 


56 posted on 09/25/2005 2:13:25 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("The wisdom of the wise and the experience of ages-Isaac Disraeli -Dalet - Hei - Vav")
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http://www.wprost.pl/wyboryparlamentarne2005

sorry thank you


57 posted on 09/25/2005 2:14:10 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("The wisdom of the wise and the experience of ages-Isaac Disraeli -Dalet - Hei - Vav")
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To: REactor

I think this a good result, it seems both PO and PiS emcompass the two aspects of conservatism, fiscal(PO) and social(PiS). It's good if both can work together, rather than have one too dominant.


58 posted on 09/25/2005 2:19:04 PM PDT by dfwgator (Flower Mound, TX)
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To: anonymoussierra

It looks good to me. Would that more voters in Poland's western neighbor had been so smart!


59 posted on 09/25/2005 2:24:37 PM PDT by Heatseeker ("I sort of like liberals now. They’re kind of cute when they’re shivering and afraid." - Ann Coulter)
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To: lizol

chlipka mialo bydz cholipka:}}}}}}}}}}dzieki lizol


60 posted on 09/25/2005 2:24:53 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("The wisdom of the wise and the experience of ages-Isaac Disraeli -Dalet - Hei - Vav")
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