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To: Alamo-Girl
I can't fathom why existence exists, but I am not convinced that science cannot probe the beginning of space and time.

That may seem like a distinction without a difference, but space and time are accessible to science.

Getting back to the Shakespeare analogy, written sentences can be said to conform or not conform to the rules of spelling and grammar. And of course, grammar is a broad concept, particularly when you are discussing 400-year-old writings. But the study of grammar and spelling cannot lead you to Shakespeare.

The study of physics and chemistry cannot set limits to biology, even if it constrains the spelling and grammar of living things.
381 posted on 09/27/2005 12:22:27 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138; betty boop; Dark Knight
Thank you for your reply!

I am not convinced that science cannot probe the beginning of space and time. That may seem like a distinction without a difference, but space and time are accessible to science.

Indeed, scientific cosmology probes the beginning as far as it can go. But science is completely lost without causality and therefore it can only speak to theories of pre-existing causal branes and other such geometries. Theology and philosophy and their various cosmologies are not restricted by causality.

Concerning your Shakespearean metaphor - the parallels would be:

a. Meaning - Theology and Philosophy

b. Information - Math/Physics

Information, which we paraphrase as successful communications (Shannon) is the action of communicating not the content of the message. The components of the model are source, message, encoder, channel, decoder, receiver and noise. The same mathematical model applies whether telecommunications, computers, molecular biology or Shakespeare.

c. Actual Text - Biology/Chemistry

In Shannon's mathematical theory of communications, this is the message content which is sent. If we were talking about molecular biology instead of Shakespeare this would be the genetic message in DNA including tRNA.


382 posted on 09/27/2005 1:14:03 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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