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Barone: John McCain (Bush's Likely Successor?)
US News & World Report ^ | September 22, 2005 | Michael Barone

Posted on 09/22/2005 5:11:53 PM PDT by RWR8189

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To: RWR8189
His comments on spending and immigration were in line with the animating spirit of Republican primary electorates, even if some of the measures he continues to support (McCain-Kennedy, the McCain-Lieberman bill on global warming, campaign-finance regulation) are not.

That doesn't make sense. His bill with Kennedy is softer on illegals than the rest of the party, but somehow his "comments" are "in line with the animating spirit" of Republican primary voters? Looks like New Age mumbo-jumbo.

61 posted on 09/22/2005 5:53:55 PM PDT by x
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To: sinkspur
Polls. Whatever. The man is a nut job. Arrogant. Stupid. Completely self obsessed. I WOULD vote for Hildabeast over him. Better to have the devil in a red suite (with the House and Senate gridlocking) than that moron leading the Republicans to the left.
62 posted on 09/22/2005 5:55:02 PM PDT by bluetone006 (Peace - or I guess war if given no other option)
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To: oceanview

Dear oceanview,

"gay marriage for example has made its greatest strides ..."

So far at the state level, only.

I don't think that most folks would expect Mr. Bush to interfere at that level.

"only on the litmus test social issues - which neither McCain or Rudy will move the ball on either way if elected president. "

Well, I don't know about Sen. McCain. I do know that Mr. Giuliani would be unlikely to try to propose any federal limits on abortion; if it were to come up as a federal issue, he would not do anything to oppose federalized homosexual marriage; it is quite likely that he would re-introduce an "assault" weapons ban, etc.

So, in one case, we might get someone who doesn't turn the tide for us (Sen. McCain), in the other, we'd have someone who would advance the causes that we loathe.

As well, it is remotely possible that a President McCain might appoint justices to the Supreme Court who were not flaming liberals. It is highly unlikely that a President Giuliani (yech, now I have to wash my keyboard) would.

Sen. McCain wouldn't by my first choice.

Nor my second.

Perhaps not my third.

But I could hold my nose and pull the lever for him in the general election.

Short of his having a Damascus-like conversion experience, I could never, ever vote for Mr. Giuliani for president.


sitetest


63 posted on 09/22/2005 5:55:05 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: marajade

it depends on who the opponent is. if its some unknown republican, who is "pure" on the litmus test issues, but otherwise unknown or uninspiring - we lose.

with Richardson on the ticket, states in the southwest with large hispanic populations - AZ, NV, NM, CO - will be in play. so will states like Ohio, that were close last time.

Hillary can win this thing.


64 posted on 09/22/2005 5:56:45 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: marajade
McCain has health and age working against him.

McCain's health seems to be fine, and he's younger than Reagan when he ran for his second term.

I don't think either one of those will be a factor. I also think a not insignificant number of Democrats would vote for McCain.

He'd get almost all the military votes in a match up with Hillary.

65 posted on 09/22/2005 5:56:58 PM PDT by sinkspur (Just west of DFW Airport. We can take in four or five and two dogs.)
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To: bmwcyle
McCain for president of Mexico.

He wants so badly to be president of something, anything.

66 posted on 09/22/2005 5:57:42 PM PDT by Bahbah (Praying for those in the path of Rita)
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To: sinkspur; oceanview

You useless morons - every conservative grassroots organization in America (which a Republican MUST have to win) like Focus on the Family is going to tear McCain a new asshole the second McCain's Bullshit Express rolls into Iowa.

The grassroots feels they didn't get much out of Bush beyond modest taxcuts and Foreign policy, and the conservatives WILL be looking for a solid conservative, not another moderate like Bush ie that means NO RUDY or MCCAIN!


67 posted on 09/22/2005 5:58:06 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: madian8
but hey do you want Hilary as President?

That is not and will not be the choice.

68 posted on 09/22/2005 5:59:24 PM PDT by Bahbah (Praying for those in the path of Rita)
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To: sitetest

if the current SCOTUS tosses the defense of marriage act - can Bush do anything about that? what powers do you think he has?

don't confuse positions Rudy had to take as mayor of liberal NYC - with what he might do as president. he has a strong background as a lawyer and a prosecutor, and I hardly see his record as indicative of him appointing ruth bader ginsburg like justices.


69 posted on 09/22/2005 5:59:25 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: bluetone006
I WOULD vote for Hildabeast over him

Then you're brainless. And I don't understand why you're posting on this website.

70 posted on 09/22/2005 5:59:48 PM PDT by sinkspur (Just west of DFW Airport. We can take in four or five and two dogs.)
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To: oceanview

"with Richardson on the ticket, states in the southwest with large hispanic populations"

1) 40% of the 41 million Hispanics in the US are here ILLEGALLY and can't vote (easily). And the ones that do vote are only 5% of the voting population wheras white voters are 82% of the electorate.

2) Richardson is an adulterer. Hillary's VEEP will either be Mark Warner or Evan Bayh, Richardson is a nonstarter.


71 posted on 09/22/2005 6:00:41 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: msjhall

"More Republicans will support him than you think."

I won't.

Nor I ..


72 posted on 09/22/2005 6:01:07 PM PDT by Milly ( An Aggie mom ..Keller Texas Off I-35 North of Ft. Worth)
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To: RWR8189

All about McCain

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/1306796/posts?page=14#14


73 posted on 09/22/2005 6:01:42 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: RWR8189
If the choice in 2008 is between John McCain and Hillary Rotten, I'll take the maverick from Arizona. Mccain is pro-military, pro-life, opposes pork barrel spending and has supported tax cuts before.

WTF am I saying! LOL

74 posted on 09/22/2005 6:02:20 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: oceanview

Rudy will not win PERIOD!

The GOP Primary voters are not going to nominate a liberal/Moderate Republican anymore than the Democrats will nominate a Conservative/Moderate Democrat in 2008.


75 posted on 09/22/2005 6:02:32 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide
You useless morons -

I suppose you expect a reply after that.

One thing's for sure: you don't speak for anybody other than a few knuckle draggers in your klavern.

76 posted on 09/22/2005 6:02:54 PM PDT by sinkspur (Just west of DFW Airport. We can take in four or five and two dogs.)
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To: GOPGuide

a solid conservative, who is unknown and uninspiring - WILL LOSE.

In 2000, we had a well known candidate, good name recognition, well funded, that the american people were comfortable with because his father had been president, who was the governor of a large state - AND WE LOST THE POPULAR VOTE.

and in 2004, as an incumbent, we WON BY ONE STATE.

these Reagan style conservative landslides are not out there to be had anymore.


77 posted on 09/22/2005 6:03:11 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

Hillary would never carry AZ.


78 posted on 09/22/2005 6:04:39 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: RWR8189

McCain is this season's rock star, having followed Guiliani and Condoleeza Rice. I still think three years is enough time for somebody better suited to gain name recognition (how many people outside of Arkansas had heard of The Bent One in 1990?) As far as the Dimmiecrats go, they may actually start looking beyond the Hildebeast (who won't be electable for anything higher than Senator) for someone like Mike Warner or even Joe Lieberman in a bid to move away from the hardcore antiwar lefties and make some claim to the middle.


79 posted on 09/22/2005 6:04:44 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: msjhall
I won't.

And neither will I. If he gets the republican nomination he is going to need every bit of the independent vote he can get.

80 posted on 09/22/2005 6:04:54 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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