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Intelligent designers down on Dover
The York Dispatch ^ | 9/20/2005 | CHRISTINA KAUFFMAN

Posted on 09/22/2005 6:53:07 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor

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To: JohnnyM
we can observe gravity in action.

No, we observe the end result of what we've theorized as gravity in action. We can't claim certainty on what, exactly, caused what we observe but we can claim to have a good explanation behind it.

We have yet to observe a macro-evolutionary event or creation.

Just as we can observe the end-result of what we call gravitational theory, we can observe the end-result of what we call evolution theory. It is no different, and the only thing you are doing here is trying to redefine gravity to be something far more simplistic than what it really is.
141 posted on 09/22/2005 11:26:05 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Oztrich Boy
"Unbeliever! Persecute!"


142 posted on 09/22/2005 11:28:04 AM PDT by Vive ut Vivas
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To: JohnnyM
I dont think you can get much clearer than "God said let there be light and there was light."

But I will admit this is on faith by His Word.

Do you also accept Chaldean mythology, from which much of the Book of Genesis was plagiarized, as His Word?

143 posted on 09/22/2005 11:29:40 AM PDT by Antonello
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To: Vive ut Vivas

Even as no one can deny you, no one can refuse you.


144 posted on 09/22/2005 11:31:57 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
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To: Vive ut Vivas
And perhaps I can have many Consorts. I'm flexible, I'm a swinger.

Conversion complete. Where do I sign?

145 posted on 09/22/2005 11:33:05 AM PDT by longshadow
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To: Antonello
nope.

JM
146 posted on 09/22/2005 11:33:12 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: Dimensio
until science can observe a cell to complex organism evoltionary path in the lab, than it is just faith.

The idea that observing a change in allele frequency and then presuming that this is the process for evolving a cell into a human without observation is faith.

You can't observe it. You cant test it in a lab. All you got is a bunch of bones and educated guessing. It is faith.

I can admit my belief is faith, why is it so hard for you to admit the same.

JM
147 posted on 09/22/2005 11:37:30 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: SolarisRocks
Genesis 1 is not a why. It is a how.

JM
148 posted on 09/22/2005 11:38:32 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: longshadow

No signature needed; just the typical conversion rituals.

So, am I doing better on this whole authority thing? I've got, like, three converts. It's a good start I think.


149 posted on 09/22/2005 11:39:58 AM PDT by Vive ut Vivas
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To: JohnnyM

It is a What. It says what God did, it doesn't say HOW he did it.


150 posted on 09/22/2005 11:40:14 AM PDT by SolarisRocks
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To: Vive ut Vivas
"Unbeliever! Persecute!"

You know, for a Godess, you've got great taste in films....

151 posted on 09/22/2005 11:41:49 AM PDT by longshadow
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To: PatrickHenry
Even as no one can deny you, no one can refuse you.

I do have one request, however, and that's the giving up of spaghetti. It is not Pleasing To Me.
152 posted on 09/22/2005 11:42:54 AM PDT by Vive ut Vivas
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To: wallcrawlr
You can keep pounding your drum that the Bible is simply mans interpretation and I'll counter with the Word of God is the Word of God.

The words on the page are the words on the page, but how one understands them is a matter of interpretation. You, not untypically, assume that your reading is the only one that is not an interpretation -- and that everyone else's reading is errant.

Why do you feel the need to mock others?

Pointing out that your interpretation of scripture is, in fact, an interpretation constitutes mockery? My, you're sensitive.

153 posted on 09/22/2005 11:47:05 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: longshadow

And at my House of Worship, I have the entire TV series on DVD. This is how we do.


154 posted on 09/22/2005 11:47:33 AM PDT by Vive ut Vivas
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To: Vive ut Vivas
But my point is that if you believed my claim, I would question your sanity. (Or reward your devoted followership.) There is nothing to back up my claim other than that I said it. Just because I said it doesn't make it true. Likewise, just because the Bible claims it is the word of God, doesn't mean it is.

No no no! This is where you're supposed to threaten hellfire and damnation on anyone who doesn't believe, in order to frighten them into submission.

What do they teach in goddess school these days...

155 posted on 09/22/2005 11:51:32 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: JohnnyM
until science can observe a cell to complex organism evoltionary path in the lab, than it is just faith.

Until science can observe all matter and its interactions with other matter in the universe, gravity is just faith.
156 posted on 09/22/2005 11:52:15 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Vive ut Vivas; longshadow
I do have one request, however, and that's the giving up of spaghetti. It is not Pleasing To Me.

Ah. The Goddess is on the Atkins diet. Ir shall be as you wish, Domina.

157 posted on 09/22/2005 11:53:00 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
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To: Vive ut Vivas
False goddess, me? Never! Let them eat cake!

Viva Vive ut Vivas! ;o)

158 posted on 09/22/2005 11:58:09 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: Vive ut Vivas
Everyone gets the day off and free pizza.

I'll take the day off but, do I go to hell if I don't eat the pizza?

159 posted on 09/22/2005 11:58:37 AM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: malakhi
What do they teach in goddess school these days...

First, I make 'em trust me. Then I have my way with them. But you didn't hear it from me!
160 posted on 09/22/2005 12:00:11 PM PDT by Vive ut Vivas
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