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Girls and Boys, Meet Nature. Bring Your Gun.
NY Times ^ | September 18, 2005 | PAM BELLUCK

Posted on 09/17/2005 9:08:12 PM PDT by neverdem

GREEN MOUNTAIN NATIONAL FOREST, Vt. - Chomping wad after wad of Bubblicious Strawberry Splash gum and giggling as she tickled people's necks with a piece of grass she pretended was a spider, Samantha Marley could have been any 9-year-old girl.

A couple of things set her apart, though. She was cloaked in camouflage from boots to baseball cap. And propped next to her on the seat of a truck was her very own 20-gauge shotgun.

Samantha, a freckle-faced, pony-tailed fourth grader, was on a bear hunt. Not the pretend kind memorialized in picture books and summer-camp chants, but a real one for black bears that live in the woods of southwestern Vermont and can weigh 150 pounds or more.

She had won a "dream hunt" given away by a Vermont man whose goal is to get more children to hunt, and she had traveled about 200 miles from her home in Bellingham, Mass., and was missing three days of school to take him up on his offer.

"Almost everything you hunt is pretty fun," said Samantha, grinning and perfectly at home with a group of five men, the youngest of whom was nearly three times her age.

At one point, as the group crossed a wooden bridge, Samantha's father, Scott, who had accompanied her - and had filled out her application for the hunting contest - teased her that trolls lived under the bridge.

"Dad," Samantha said with bravado, "I got a gun."

The dream hunt - all expenses paid, including taxidermy - was the brainchild of Kevin Hoyt, a 35-year-old hunting instructor who quit a job as a structural steel draftsman a few years ago and decided to dedicate himself to getting children across the country interested in hunting.

His efforts reflect...

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To: Lazamataz

My dad was a prison guard for over 30 years.
One day he was talking to a Baltimorean inmate chowing down in the prison mess and dad asked the guy where he thought meat came from.
The guy answered "the supermarket".
Dad then asked him where the meat came from *before* it got to the supermarket.
The guy replied "a warehouse?".


381 posted on 09/20/2005 4:01:53 PM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: cyborg
I would want my children to learn gun safety because my dearest has guns.

Gun-Proof Your Children / Massad Ayoob's Handgun Primer (Paperback) -- $4.95 on Amazon

382 posted on 09/20/2005 4:05:25 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: Hoplite

"Try as I might for the last couple of years, I still can't grow bacon out in the backyard."

Seeds can be fussy things.
Make sure you aren't planting the Bacon-Bits® upside down....:)


383 posted on 09/20/2005 4:06:44 PM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: cyborg
I just don't see how a child could carry their own firearm. Isn't that against the law?

As long as they're with adult supervision, it's OK. I taught my eldest daughter to shoot when she was 6 (semi-auto .22)

Martial arts would be more effective for a young child

Against other young children, maybe. Against an adult pervert, probably not. A good knife (I like either Spyderco or Benchmade), along with some training, would be better

384 posted on 09/20/2005 4:11:47 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: djf
If you really believe that a couple folks with 12 guages and 30.06's are gonna stop a rampaging government that has tear gasses and automatic weapons (if it was ever intent on taking you out) then you are pretty unrealistically optimistic.

Governments wouldn't have tear gasses and automatic weapons for very long if the purchasing agents in charge of buying them, and the payroll clerks in charge of paying the men using them, had a run-in with resistence elements

385 posted on 09/20/2005 4:19:05 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: cyborg
I'm not a vegan but when I do have children, animal flesh won't be a part of their diet.

Humans are designed to be omnivores. It can be real hard to ensure you get all your nutrients in a pure vegan diet, particularly with young children

386 posted on 09/20/2005 4:22:38 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Raw goat milk or cheese would be fine. A person doesn't need animal flesh to flourish with good health. My iron/minerals were good last time I checked (which was last year). I think some vegetarians/vegans get into trouble consuming too much starchy carbs (esp. vegetarians who eat junk food).


387 posted on 09/20/2005 5:12:58 PM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job and the breath in my lungs.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

thanks!


388 posted on 09/20/2005 5:14:44 PM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job and the breath in my lungs.)
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To: R. Scott
Its not "yankee bears" exactly. Wisconsin has held the record a couple of times. Ive never seen a full grown one of only 150lbs. I read an article (around here?) saying that ours were largest on average and breeding far younger than anyone elses. There was one killed in traffic over by Cadot that is estimated to have at one point been just under 900lbs.

Trophy Bear Areas

“While the average weight of bears taken in most areas is around one hundred fifty pounds, some bears get very big,” says Brian Bachman, a NABF founder and operator of Arrowhead Wilderness Lodge in northeastern Minnesota (218-828-7079). “Size depends on available food sources and genetics.”

“Most people who pursue bears are looking for ‘The Big One,’” says Bachman, who has been an avid bear hunter since 1978 and guides about 30 bear hunters each fall. “I’m often asked, ‘Where is the next record coming from?’ I don’t know, but I do know where the biggest bears are coming from now.”

Bachman notes that Canada boasts high numbers of bears, but more of the bigger bruins are being killed farther south. “Wisconsin has the most B&C entries in the top one hundred in the past ten years,” he says. “Wisconsin manages its bears very well and limits the number of hunters. It can take five years to draw a Wisconsin bear tag. Minnesota and Pennsylvania are not far behind. Minnesota has a lottery, but tags are easy to get. Pennsylvania does not limit bear hunters. I’d look to one of those states for the next record, and give a slight advantage to Wisconsin.”

389 posted on 09/20/2005 6:02:05 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: gnarledmaw

My experience with bears is limited to Virginia. The ones I’ve seen up close were about my height but considerably larger around. I’d have to put a good guesstimate at 300-400 pounds.
I have never actively looked for bears, but when we used to camp in the Blue Ridge one or two would occasionally wander through the camp. We gave them a clear berth.


390 posted on 09/21/2005 4:06:05 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Salamander
Make sure you aren't planting the Bacon-Bits® upside down....:)

I couldn't if I tried - when I try to do a handstand I usually regain consciousness a couple seconds later with a headache and a nosebleed.

391 posted on 09/21/2005 7:20:24 AM PDT by Hoplite
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