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Girls and Boys, Meet Nature. Bring Your Gun.
NY Times ^ | September 18, 2005 | PAM BELLUCK

Posted on 09/17/2005 9:08:12 PM PDT by neverdem

GREEN MOUNTAIN NATIONAL FOREST, Vt. - Chomping wad after wad of Bubblicious Strawberry Splash gum and giggling as she tickled people's necks with a piece of grass she pretended was a spider, Samantha Marley could have been any 9-year-old girl.

A couple of things set her apart, though. She was cloaked in camouflage from boots to baseball cap. And propped next to her on the seat of a truck was her very own 20-gauge shotgun.

Samantha, a freckle-faced, pony-tailed fourth grader, was on a bear hunt. Not the pretend kind memorialized in picture books and summer-camp chants, but a real one for black bears that live in the woods of southwestern Vermont and can weigh 150 pounds or more.

She had won a "dream hunt" given away by a Vermont man whose goal is to get more children to hunt, and she had traveled about 200 miles from her home in Bellingham, Mass., and was missing three days of school to take him up on his offer.

"Almost everything you hunt is pretty fun," said Samantha, grinning and perfectly at home with a group of five men, the youngest of whom was nearly three times her age.

At one point, as the group crossed a wooden bridge, Samantha's father, Scott, who had accompanied her - and had filled out her application for the hunting contest - teased her that trolls lived under the bridge.

"Dad," Samantha said with bravado, "I got a gun."

The dream hunt - all expenses paid, including taxidermy - was the brainchild of Kevin Hoyt, a 35-year-old hunting instructor who quit a job as a structural steel draftsman a few years ago and decided to dedicate himself to getting children across the country interested in hunting.

His efforts reflect...

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To: MarkL
Yikes! That's not food! That's what food eats!

YEAH! I's not even bait.

221 posted on 09/18/2005 12:41:56 AM PDT by rock58seg ("Guest Workers," W's version of, "Read my lips." Secure our borders!)
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To: Salamander

Looks to me like a pointer of some kind, maybe German.


222 posted on 09/18/2005 12:44:30 AM PDT by LadyForLiberty
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To: LadyForLiberty

Somebody identified them as Plott Hounds.
Google it.
They're magnificent...:)


223 posted on 09/18/2005 12:46:22 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: cyborg
I don't care for it. Not something I want my children doing, hunting down animals.

Agreed. Target shooting is ok though.

224 posted on 09/18/2005 1:08:56 AM PDT by beyond the sea (William Jefferson Democrat Louisiana - doesn't everybody keep their cash in their freezer)
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To: cyborg

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225 posted on 09/18/2005 1:12:12 AM PDT by beyond the sea (William Jefferson Democrat Louisiana - doesn't everybody keep their cash in their freezer)
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To: cyborg
I would not want my children hunting. That's all. It's creepy.

You Vegetarians all think that way.

226 posted on 09/18/2005 1:48:09 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (With faith anything is possible. With science only the possible is possible.)
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To: cyborg
I was trying to post an audio version for you which is guaranteed to be even more over the top but I am having a tech breakdown and my 20 year old visiting genius has gone to Amsterdam for a week. So, you have been spared that audio rant.

Tally ho.


227 posted on 09/18/2005 2:52:56 AM PDT by nathanbedford (Lose your borders, lose your citizenship; lose your citizenship, lose your Bill of Rights)
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To: 1rudeboy

"Is hunting bear with a 20 gauge advisable?"



I was wondering the same thing.


228 posted on 09/18/2005 3:18:27 AM PDT by brooklin
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To: Jeff Head; Squantos
Not too sure about a deer hunt on Ft Knox this fall. The tags are for an antlered deer with a minimum spread of 12 inches or for a non-antlered. My last antlered deer was a non-typical with one side partially developed and the other almost non-existent. The last deer was a nice healthy doe and was delicious.

Peabody Coal has some reclaimed open pit mining land in Western Kentucky they turned over to the Kentucky National Guard for training that has excellent deer hunting. Since I still have some connections in the guard it looks like that is where son, son-in-law and I are heading this fall.

One of our security guards in the building I work at makes his own summer sausage and always has a plate nearby. If you sort of loiter while signing in for work you get samples. This past week he had some with a little extra garlic, didn't have to worry about the vampires coming too close. A couple of weeks ago it was smoked with fresh green apple wood. Excellent!

The posts from the non-hunters here are enlightening. At least they are not the venom we see from the likes of PETA.

229 posted on 09/18/2005 3:24:02 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: cyborg
My children just won't be any.

How do you know that?
230 posted on 09/18/2005 3:24:19 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: cyborg
I take a liquid iron plus b12 supplement and eat seaweeds and various cholorphylls.

Never gonna replace an Angus New York cut, cooked on the grill or a pound of roast prime rib.
231 posted on 09/18/2005 3:31:11 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: cyborg
Someday I am getting a shooting lesson from my fiance. Won't happen till I love though because I live in NY.

I bought my wife and I a couple of .38's a few weeks ago. She couldn't wait to shoot hers. We finally went and she loved shooting. Should I be nervous?

In all seriousness, I think it's very important for a woman to know how to protect themselves. A gun is a great equalizer for a 100 lb woman versus a determined 200 lb thug.

232 posted on 09/18/2005 3:42:40 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Beckwith; All

We have guns but don't hunt. I don't think I'd have the patience to track an animal, but I'm not at all put off with the idea of dressing one. (I have some OLD cookbooks that go into detail about that.)

Mr. Lu lived most of his life on the water, so fishing is his thing. Mostly it's catch and release, but cleaning fish doesn't bother me either.

I learned to shoot when I was 12.


233 posted on 09/18/2005 3:50:49 AM PDT by LuLuLuLu
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To: cyborg
My children Hunted from the time they could handle a gun. Now they are mostly grown up between the 2 of them they have killed a couple of dozen deer 2 bears and more small game then one can count.

Teaching kids to hunt and be responsible citizens goes hand and hand. I child that can handle a gun responsibly is one that well grow up to be a good citizen

234 posted on 09/18/2005 3:54:46 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Salamander

They look like plotts to me. I ran bear with a pair last year.


235 posted on 09/18/2005 3:56:33 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: neverdem
but a real one for black bears that live in the woods of southwestern Vermont and can weigh 150 pounds or more.

Them Yankee bears are a bit scrawny – or maybe they're including cubs.
236 posted on 09/18/2005 3:57:57 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: cyborg
"Martial arts would be more effective for a young child.

No, actually they wouldn't be. Spse some adult burglar breaks into your home and accosts your child. Martial arts would do ZERO good. Knowledge of firearms and how to shoot COULD save their life. There are incidents on record where exactly that has happened. EVERYONE should learn: 1)gun safety, and 2) how to shoot.

"I just don't see how a child could carry their own firearm. Isn't that against the law?"

In "reasonable" states, no--it isn't illegal, and certainly not if in the "company of a responsible adult". Years ago, it was completely common for youngsters to carry firearms to hunt in every state. It is only the persistent efforts of the anti-gunners to demonize gun-ownership, shooting, and hunting that has caused the change.

237 posted on 09/18/2005 3:58:54 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: 1rudeboy

20 gauge slugs would be OK if it was a pump. I wouldn’t try it with a single shot without a .44 mag backup.


238 posted on 09/18/2005 4:00:30 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Salamander
…it drives hubby nuts because he says I keep "sneaking up on him" and freaking him out....:))

My late wife’s pet peeve. I just couldn’t revert to a clunking stomp style of walking.
239 posted on 09/18/2005 4:03:15 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: neverdem

Some people prefer the animal – cow, pig, chicken, whatever – be killed by a stranger many miles away after being stressed by the trip from their home to the processor. They prefer the meat to be well aged and travel from the kill lot to the butchering plant to the packing plant to the wholesale warehouse to the retail center to the meat counter.
I admit I use this meat myself – but during the season I occasionally get some fresh venison from friends.


240 posted on 09/18/2005 4:09:20 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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