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Girls and Boys, Meet Nature. Bring Your Gun.
NY Times ^ | September 18, 2005 | PAM BELLUCK

Posted on 09/17/2005 9:08:12 PM PDT by neverdem

GREEN MOUNTAIN NATIONAL FOREST, Vt. - Chomping wad after wad of Bubblicious Strawberry Splash gum and giggling as she tickled people's necks with a piece of grass she pretended was a spider, Samantha Marley could have been any 9-year-old girl.

A couple of things set her apart, though. She was cloaked in camouflage from boots to baseball cap. And propped next to her on the seat of a truck was her very own 20-gauge shotgun.

Samantha, a freckle-faced, pony-tailed fourth grader, was on a bear hunt. Not the pretend kind memorialized in picture books and summer-camp chants, but a real one for black bears that live in the woods of southwestern Vermont and can weigh 150 pounds or more.

She had won a "dream hunt" given away by a Vermont man whose goal is to get more children to hunt, and she had traveled about 200 miles from her home in Bellingham, Mass., and was missing three days of school to take him up on his offer.

"Almost everything you hunt is pretty fun," said Samantha, grinning and perfectly at home with a group of five men, the youngest of whom was nearly three times her age.

At one point, as the group crossed a wooden bridge, Samantha's father, Scott, who had accompanied her - and had filled out her application for the hunting contest - teased her that trolls lived under the bridge.

"Dad," Samantha said with bravado, "I got a gun."

The dream hunt - all expenses paid, including taxidermy - was the brainchild of Kevin Hoyt, a 35-year-old hunting instructor who quit a job as a structural steel draftsman a few years ago and decided to dedicate himself to getting children across the country interested in hunting.

His efforts reflect...

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To: WKUHilltopper
Girls have an advantage. When they start learning to shoot, there is little ego involved. They listen well to coaching, and seem to have better fine motor control.

Once they learn, they tend to be deadly accurate.

I'm a pretty fair shot, but hand my wife a strange rifle with iron sights and she'll be spot on by the third shot.

121 posted on 09/17/2005 10:18:29 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: metmom

Oh I agree. I'm off to sleep myself.


122 posted on 09/17/2005 10:18:51 PM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job and the breath in my lungs.)
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To: metmom
There is an old Hank Williams, Jr. song called A Country Boy Can Survive. The lyrics encapsulate the whole rural gun culture thing.

We have seen lately how thin the veneer of civilization really is. You have improved your odds of survival by relocating to a rural area. Your teenager's friends' hunting and shooting mentors could be valuable resources in enhancing your family's self-reliance.

123 posted on 09/17/2005 10:19:27 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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To: cyborg

We're farmers so I know what real vegetables taste like. Nothing like the cardboard you get at the store.


124 posted on 09/17/2005 10:20:55 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki

You got that right!


125 posted on 09/17/2005 10:21:34 PM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job and the breath in my lungs.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

LOL.....One reason I get a cow elk permit every year. I can't afford to pay trophy fees.......:o)


126 posted on 09/17/2005 10:22:48 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: cyborg

Few people even know what a -real- egg tastes like.

I've actually seen people that prefer the tasteless, anemic things that are sold in stores.


127 posted on 09/17/2005 10:23:11 PM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

"Tailor" has dissappeared from our cultural vocab. Its "fashion designer" now. Kids learn skills from both parents sure, but there's a core to each role that's been lost. I admire parents that teach their boys to be boys, their girls to be girls, and to respect and appreciate the differences in the other.

One family I stayed with as a guest a while back - nothing drew the parents ire more than the boys criticizing their sisters activities/conversations or vice versa when the girls wanted to rough-house around. It was refreshing to see this purpose these parents had for raising their kids.


128 posted on 09/17/2005 10:25:30 PM PDT by rjp2005
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To: djf
I don't see where I even implied that.
129 posted on 09/17/2005 10:25:54 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Salamander

One more thing before I call it a night...You're right about the egg. The yolk is the best part of the egg. Having a hen to get fresh eggs is the best thing next to having a nanny goat. Personally, I've not had an egg in a while. I do know some women who are raw foodists who eat egg yolks and have very healthy babies with all the folic acid in the yolk.


130 posted on 09/17/2005 10:27:28 PM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job and the breath in my lungs.)
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To: cyborg
I am not the one who deserves the credit, but thanks. We're raising two of our grandkids, and I really enjoy them (all).

I try to only teach them my good habits, and they keep me young.

My Dad is the family patriarch, but he lives 2000 miles away, so the job falls to me.

In six months or so, he'll become a great-great-grandfather...

131 posted on 09/17/2005 10:29:58 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: cyborg

I hunt but my daughter doesn't care to. She loves shooting and knows the safety rules, she also likes doing all the camping things involved with hunting including getting all camo'd up, she just doesn't care to hunt...Nothing wrong with that.


132 posted on 09/17/2005 10:32:33 PM PDT by in the Arena (CAPT (USAF) James Wayne Herrick, Jr. (Call Sign: FireFly33). MIA Laos 27 Oct 69)
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To: cyborg
It's nothing something I'd want my children doing.

I won't make light of your obvious love for animals...but... Unless you are strict vegetarians, do your kids know where their food comes from? Hunting is among the most basic of survival skills. When properly taught, it fosters respect for God's creatures, not abuse.
Does not the wild boar die a better death than the barrow in the slaughterhouse?

133 posted on 09/17/2005 10:34:05 PM PDT by labette (A living, breathing, constitution is the model of doublespeak.)
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To: djf
80 million gun owners. If only one in 100 stands up, that is an army of 800,000. You can do the math from there. Add skills acquired hunting (fieldcraft and marksmanship), say half of those folks, and you have 400,000 people who can be reasonaly expected to hit a target the size of a dinner plate at 200-500+ yards. An army of snipers, spread out, will exhaust the resources of the best forces.

Add in military and special forces training in a minority who can pass these skills along, and you have a formidable force.

Technology is only at its best against massed forces.

Small units converging on a specific target can decimate it, but are historically hard to counter with technology alone.

Check out the battle of Kings Mountain.

134 posted on 09/17/2005 10:39:37 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: djf
If you really believe that a couple folks with 12 guages and 30.06's are gonna stop a rampaging government that has tear gasses and automatic weapons (if it was ever intent on taking you out) then you are pretty unrealistically optimistic.

A couple folks have no chance. 1% of the armed citizenry would outnumber the Active Army.

How would the Battle of Fallujah have gone if the hadjis had all been deer and elk and bighorn and hog and chuck and prairie dog hunters?

135 posted on 09/17/2005 10:40:08 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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To: labette

If someone needs to hunt for food to put on the table then that's fine. I just don't think a child should be doing that. I don't eat animal flesh so it's nothing I'd have to discuss with the children anyway. I suppose I'd have to explain why some kids eat hotdogs and they don't. A slaughterhouse isn't a fair fight and if someone preferred meat they should hunt for it.


136 posted on 09/17/2005 10:41:00 PM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job and the breath in my lungs.)
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To: Racehorse
What people do not realize is that those kids in WWII saved this country because they could shoot.

That wasn't my comment. I don't know who made it.

137 posted on 09/17/2005 10:41:25 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: cyborg

Are your children also vegans?


138 posted on 09/17/2005 10:42:14 PM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: cyborg
Are you a vegetarian?

Even if your are, your are still killing plants.

139 posted on 09/17/2005 10:42:24 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Salamander


Wait? A Real Egg? An egg is an egg, or isn't it. I'm confused.


140 posted on 09/17/2005 10:43:14 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell
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