Windows Vista Product Editions Revealed (Microsoft Milks the market)

Arstechnica.com ^ | 9/10/2005 | Ken Fischer

[rivercat]

I still don't get why folks are down on DRM. It seems to me that the only folks that should be down on DRM are the pirates and thieves. I, for one, welcome DRM as it should ultimately (eventually) make it easier (seemless) for me to use my computer to view copyrighted content from whatever form of media that I have chosen to pay for.

*If* it would be possible to stop all piracy, then the cost of products should go down, if not then they sell less product.

[JoJo Gunn]

What I wanna know is if you have to now go through seven layers of former fry cooks to get it activated.

[ExitPurgamentum]

Ah, you don't even know the difference between psychology and economics. Do yo call all of mathematics "psychobabbling" or only game theory? Did you even see anything from that area written on paper or spoken?

Nah, you just use that word for ALL things you are ignorant of. Reduced you feeling of incompetence for a moment.

Make sure you take your boots of when you go to bed tonight.

[adam_az]

"Holy Mother of God! "Coordination in economics and game theory"??? Yet another psychobabbling shill signs on to the Freep."

You're both wrong.

http://www.gametheory.net/dictionary/Games/PureCoordination.html

1) It's not Pareto Cooperation

2) Pathetic that you apparently never took Microeconomics in college, or took time to learn one darn thing about the subject... It's far from "psychobabble."

[JoJo Gunn]

It's entertaining to see a buffoon. Go on, please.

I note you have a recent signup date. Nothing wrong with that, of course, yet it prods my instincts. You smell very familiar. Have you been here before under another moniker?

[Getready]

Correctomundo!!!!
I cannot believe people would want to spend money on a computer which can show HDTV since pretty soon HDTV players
will be YOU-BIC-QUIT-US! If you're making HDTV content, well
I understand, but to type out memos, notes, and e-mails?
How did people do all those things with the lowly
Mac Classics/Amigas/PC 8088's???

[JoJo Gunn]

Is that anything like "queer theory"? :)

[adam_az]

"I still don't get why folks are down on DRM. It seems to me that the only folks that should be down on DRM are the pirates and thieves. I, for one, welcome DRM as it should ultimately (eventually) make it easier (seemless) for me to use my computer to view copyrighted content from whatever form of media that I have chosen to pay for."


You won't be able to... the media can be tied to playback on a specific device. For this usage of DRM, you'll have to pay AGAIN to view it on a different device, if the seller wants you to.

[dennisw]

All valid points by you. Plus what's in Office2003 that Office2000 won't do as well for 95% of users? Even Office '97 is suitable for most. And Microsoft makes a lot more money from it's Office suite than from it's OS sales.

[postaldave]

"the only folks that should be down on DRM are the pirates and thieves."

it stops me from placing sounds on my portable mp3, the key word is my not the one they pick for me and it stops me from networking my archived files across my personal network.

does that make me a pirate or a thief???

[JoJo Gunn]

No, what's pathetic is in how someone wears their being indoctrinated like a badge. Just because something has "theory" appended to it doesn't mean squat.

[ExitPurgamentum]

Is that anything like "queer theory"? :)

Yous is the type that has earned us the reputation of "ignrant self-absorbed American" around the world. In most other places, people are not proud of their ignorance, but here it is bliss.

I gave you enough pointers. Go find for yourseld what game theory is. That is, if you can read. Have a good day.

[N3WBI3]

It seems to me that the only folks that should be down on DRM are the pirates and thieves.

Pirates and theives could care less about DRM, theyll crack it in a few weeks the people who should be bothered are honest content owners being treated liek pirates and theives. When you start to tell me what systems I can play my legally owned content thats a problem!

[adam_az]

"No, what's pathetic is in how someone wears their being indoctrinated like a badge. Just because something has "theory" appended to it doesn't mean squat."

Actually game theory is a branch of mathematics and logic.

All things in science are called a "theory"

What's pathetic is in how someone wears their ignorance like a badge.

Here's a good introduction to a fascinating branch of applied mathematics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Theory

[RedWing9]

Many of those PCI Express cards seem to use the main system memory to power them. EXAMPLE: one might have 32mb onboard and the system memory is supposed to supply the rest to bring it to 128mb.

Please refrain from making statements that are untrue. You are propogating false information.

A PCI-E card uses no main system memory to execute commands from it's own GPU. Software written without GPU specific commands may execute commands in system memory from the main CPU.

What you might be referring to is onboard graphics (like in a laptop). Not a slot based card.

If a card says it has 256mb, it uses 256mb on the card and none from system memory.

[PAR35]

OK, I've now made a thorough analysis of the many options, and I've made my decision - WindowsXP Pro.

And deal with all those downloads and patches? I'll stick to Win9x, thank you.

[JoJo Gunn]

After rushing to Starbucks for some overpriced faddist "coffee", my pinky is sticking firmly out. I now understand game theory completely.

A game either entices you to play it, or it doesn't.

You either win the game or you don't.

There's another theory you and your advocate should educate yourself about, the theory of KISS (keep it simple, stupid).

[ExitPurgamentum]

You smell very familiar.

I am sorry I don't know what to say in reply. I usually talk to people when I meet them. I certainly don't remember ever letting you smell my butt.

[rivercat]

If the company is selling me rights to view/listen/copy a product on a particular device, then that is their right. Your choice is not to purchase their product. Maybe the lower sales will convince them to change their policy.

Another way to look at this would be that once the majority of devices support DRM, then the content producers would be more inclined to permit sharing across devices because they would potentially have more assurance that the content is being used by the person that purchased the use of the content in question.

Are you a pirate or thief? I don't know. What do the Terms of Service or law state about the content that you are copying to another device (your MP3 player)? If it says you may copy it to any MP3 player, then you are not, if it forbids this, then yes, you may be a pirate.

[RedWing9]

No way will I move to Vista unless they make cleartype even better.

Sorry, I meant to include this in my other post...

One of the clear benefits of Vista will be the way it handles graphics. Instead of writing information on the screen using pixel based locations, Vista will use vector based math. This means that any image/window/text, can be scaled without having to interpolate the extra pixels. The basic of this is that Windows XP (& prior) used a 2D interface, Vista is 3D.