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To: PeaRidge
Nowhere have i used that figure.

No, you didn't use the 91% number, but you repeatedly cited the $331 million-south/$31 million-north import numbers. Arriving at 91% is just math.

Then, when it's considered that the north had four times the population, the per capita consumption of imported goods in the south, becomes roughly 40x that of the north.

You also cited the 1860 Treasury report from the State of the Union address as the source for the numbers, giving a general link and telling us to go find it ourselves. Well, we did find it, only to discover that those numbers were nowhere in that document. Nor could they be extrapolated through any amount of interpretation and study, as you suggest. No, the closest that document comes is in giving the total collected tariffs for each quarter of the preceding year. So why did you tell us all that was the place we could find the numbers?

791 posted on 10/04/2005 9:44:20 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Heyworth
Me "Nowhere have i used that figure."

You "No, you didn't use the 91% number,"

Finally the truth of Non-seq's fallacies come out.

You "but you repeatedly cited the $331 million-south/$31 million-north import numbers."

I did cite that source several times.

You "Arriving at 91% is just math."

No it isn't. It is factual assumption and in non-seq's case factual misrepresentation, because he knew it was wrong. He did the math, did the percentages...all based on his motivation to obfuscate and deceive.

"Then, when it's considered that the north had four times the population, the per capita consumption of imported goods in the south, becomes roughly 40x that of the north."

That is based on information that is completely distorted, so it will beg the answer that beforehand appears to be totally factually incorrect. No, you and non incorrectly framed the question.
804 posted on 10/04/2005 12:53:57 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: Heyworth

"You also cited the 1860 Treasury report from the State of the Union address as the source for the numbers,"

I did, and it gave you the import number to begin. I told you that it would take some work.

"giving a general link and telling us"

The link was specific, and I told Grand Old the topic to search for.

"Well, we did find it, only to discover that those numbers were nowhere in that document."

The import/export and tariff data were and are all there.

"Nor could they be extrapolated through any amount of interpretation and study, as you suggest."

It can and does with the right study.

"No, the closest that document comes is in giving the total collected tariffs for each quarter of the preceding year. So why did you tell us all that was the place we could find the numbers?"

Tell us all? Who are you representing?

I told you the source of the data on import value. I told you that the value of import consumption could be determined. I have even explained it to you in a post above.

You still don't get the point do you?









807 posted on 10/04/2005 1:14:49 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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