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To: Heyworth
Me "Nowhere have i used that figure."

You "No, you didn't use the 91% number,"

Finally the truth of Non-seq's fallacies come out.

You "but you repeatedly cited the $331 million-south/$31 million-north import numbers."

I did cite that source several times.

You "Arriving at 91% is just math."

No it isn't. It is factual assumption and in non-seq's case factual misrepresentation, because he knew it was wrong. He did the math, did the percentages...all based on his motivation to obfuscate and deceive.

"Then, when it's considered that the north had four times the population, the per capita consumption of imported goods in the south, becomes roughly 40x that of the north."

That is based on information that is completely distorted, so it will beg the answer that beforehand appears to be totally factually incorrect. No, you and non incorrectly framed the question.
804 posted on 10/04/2005 12:53:57 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge
That is based on information that is completely distorted, so it will beg the answer that beforehand appears to be totally factually incorrect. No, you and non incorrectly framed the question.

No, it's you that's been obfuscating and distorting, attempting to maximize the importance of tariff revenues on goods bound for the south by conflating them with non-tariff-subject goods from the north. And now you're trying to make it sound like we were dumb for taking the word "import" at it's accepted meaning as goods originating in a foreign country.

I'm going to go "import" some lunch from the place across the street.

806 posted on 10/04/2005 1:08:19 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: PeaRidge
N-S deals in PROPAGANDA. nothing more,nothing less.

UNtruthfulness, SPIN,artful evasions & DIShonesty is his JOB as Minister of DAMNyankee Propaganda.

we/you shouldn't knock him for doing his JOB.

free dixie,sw

815 posted on 10/04/2005 2:36:00 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: PeaRidge
While I appreciate the detailed background material, nothing you've presented so far raises itself as an impediment to Southern from participation in the American system.

In 1789 tariff legislation gave American built and owned vessels a preferred tariff. This presumably included vessels built and/or owned in the South. The "triangle trade" you described provided the South with a natural advantage, as the cotton bound for England was closer to southern ports than northern ones. Southern entrepreneurs could have loaded ships with cotton from Savannah to Liverpool, returned to New York with manufactured goods and wares, and completed their "triangle" with northern domestic goods, some imports, and passengers.

Pea, you really should stop thinking about the Northern United States as being a foreign country. It would greatly help you overcome your historical myopia.

818 posted on 10/04/2005 2:50:21 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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